"If they want to travel around the country promoting their ethical challenges, that only helps me elect Democratic governors," Shumlin said. "My point is, team, I don't have investigations going on in the Democratic governors. We don't get indicted.""I'm just grateful that I don't have Democratic governors who have those challenges," he told Time's Zeke Miller. "We don't get indicted, we don't get criminal investigations — we create jobs."
And the 57-year old governor also had a conservative-sounding talking point about how governance should be bottom-up, not top down. "I've always been a big believer in local control, in believing that the best ideas are hatched in small or big states, and the rest of the country gets around," he said.When Ward asked Shumlin whether he watches Netflix's "House of Cards," the governor said that the show "reminds me of every reason why I never want to have to serve in Washington, D.C."
But he wasn't talking about limiting the size of government, necessarily.
"I don't think there's any better example of that than the marriage-equality struggle. We created civil unions when I was president of the [state] Senate 12 years ago, and people thought we were crazy," Shumlin said. "It was a really tough discussion in Vermont. But people thought we had lost our minds. Now the 17th state just adopted marriage with no fanfare. The states should be the laboratories for change."