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Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

leaterhune, dog licenses are already required at the dog park, and I've seen volunteers ask people to leave whose dogs were unlicensed. Vaccinations are important and without a license we have no idea what a dog's health status is.

raincntry, amen to "We don't charge fees for basketball courts, tennis courts, trails, soccer or baseball fields, skate parks, or bike paths. Singling out dog parks is patently unfair." (But I think you meant park users are "conscientious" (thoughtful) and not "contentious" (argumentative) :-))

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Posted by Alex Chaffee on 08/04/2015 at 11:56 AM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

Lee Brown is quoted saying, "People go over there, and they hang 'round in the middle of the park and chitchat while their dogs run rampant" -- as if that isn't the entire point of a dog park. Dogs need to socialize. So do their humans. The Starr Farm dog park has a great community of humans who keep an eye on their dogs and separate them when things get too barky or growly. Councilor Hartnett's suggestions are counterproductive: making the park smaller would make it harder for owners to defuse incidents, and therefore cause more noise. And I'm curious just how much city maintenance this volunteer-run park requires, and how making the park smaller would change that? As far as I know the only city maintenance is trash pickup.

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Posted by Alex Chaffee on 08/04/2015 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

How about dog license with option for a parking pass for dog parks. Display on mirror, like a handicap parking permit. And police monitor the parking, give tickets for people who park there to use the bikepath or a nearby beach. There ARE solutions to these problems.

Take it to your NPA. http://wards4and7npa.blogspot.com/ Cty Councilors are there every month to hear about issues in your neighborhood that they can help resolve. Every NPA meeting (fourth Wednesday, Miller Center) has a speak out for items not on the agenda, and with some notice you can request that it be an agenda item. 4nd7npa@gmail.com

Posted by leaterhune on 08/03/2015 at 3:24 PM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

Starr Farm Dog Park is an AWESOME volunteer managed park that runs amazingly well considering how many people and dogs go there. Unfortunately, a few VERY vocal and power hungry people are spreading erroneous rumors that the dog park is a wild free for all. Overall, it is a fun, loving, peaceful, and positive place that promotes a sense of community among dog owners. There will always be a couple issues as there are with all public places (way worse things go down in the "human" parks). Once in a while dogs will have a scuffle, but considering the large number of dogs and owners who go there it is amazing so little problems have occurred... Largely because people monitor their dogs and the park is large enough so that dogs have enough space to distance themselves from negative interactions. The gates remain locked from 8pm-8am; if anyone is in there at night and in the early morning they are in there illegally. If residents such as Lee Brown see people breaking the law or noise ordinance they should alert the police to solve the problem and NOT make the law abiding dog owners suffer. Much of the negative commentary is blown out of proportion.

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Posted by Joanne Kalisz on 08/03/2015 at 12:25 PM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

Good idea to require a dog license in all parks -- dog park and other parks. To get a dog license one has to show proof of up-to-date rabies vaccine which is an important public health issue. Burlington also needs to have a resident and a non-resident dog license, with fees ear marked for upkeep of the dog parks. And, we want an animal protection officer.

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Posted by leaterhune on 07/31/2015 at 8:53 PM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

While I'm somewhat sympathetic, this story screams NIMBY. The only real proposed solution that would address the concern would be to open another dog park. To the extent that there are solutions that require, tags, or parking passes, or whatever, the issue will always be enforcement. By who and how will those be enforced? Enforcement costs money, likely more money than it would raise. With respect to a fee, I pay fairly high property taxes here in BTV. We don't charge fees for basketball courts, tennis courts, trails, soccer or baseball fields, skate parks, or bike paths. Singling out dog parks is patently unfair. Property taxes support access to all these parks equally. Here, the idea of a fee is used not as a revenue generator, but as a barrier to use. That's improper.

A better idea is to educate those who use the park of their impacts on the local neighborhood and ask them to respect the neighborhood. My experience at that park is that the vast majority of visitors are fairly contentious folks who are thankful to have a nice place in town to take their dog. I'd wager they'd do what they could to alleviate the neighborhood's concerns.

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Posted by raincntry on 07/31/2015 at 8:09 PM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

Sounds like one solution to one of the neighbors concerns would be to increase parking.
Some of the people who park at the dog park do not use the park nor do they have dogs! I don't know where they actually go, but they typically are coming from or going to the bike path. So the dog park lot will become full during peak times, but not all cars belong to people using the park. The park closes at 8pm, but even after the gate is locked and the dogs and their owners have gone there are often a couple cars left in the park.
In a related issue, the neighboring "human" park frequently experiences not enough parking during the soccer games. Sounds like that park could also use extra parking.
- Joanne
I have been a regular at the dog park and resident of the NNE since 2003.

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Posted by Joanne Kalisz on 07/31/2015 at 5:56 PM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

As a childless Colchester resident that pays substantial property taxes, I called the parks and recreation department to ask where I could take my dog (well behaved, on leashed) to a lake access where he could swim on hot days. Answer: nowhere.

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Posted by VermontRN2002 on 07/30/2015 at 5:21 PM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

I don't think making the dog park smaller would help the issue... The same dogs would be in there but in a smaller space making it feel more crowded. I agree with the other commenters about parking being used for the beach and the human park. Perhaps selling dog-park parking stickers for cars would work? You would have to have a sticker to park there and the money raised would go towards maintenance. Most dog owners wouldn't mind paying for a nice park!

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Posted by Lauren Talbot on 07/30/2015 at 2:05 PM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

Or they park at the dog park and go over to the playground/park next door when that lot fills up, mostly when they have the soccer games. I'm also a volunteer that closes the park on Friday evenings, and use the park frequently. Agreed with Trevor, address the right problems, don't make those of us who do use that park for our dogs pay for the misuse of others.

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Posted by Jessie B. on 07/30/2015 at 10:01 AM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

IamNabil — Thanks for catching that! The correct date of the meeting is Tuesday, August 4.

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Posted by Andrea Suozzo on 07/30/2015 at 9:45 AM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

Wednesday is the fifth. Do you mean the Tuesday the fourth, or Wednesday the fifth?

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Posted by IamNabil on 07/30/2015 at 5:52 AM

Re: “Fetching and Kvetching: A Dog Park Annoys Some of Its Neighbors

People park at the dog park and then walk down to the beach. Traffic problem isn't the dog park, it's the beach goers who want to park as close as possible. I was at the park this weekend and there were 6 dogs and the lot was full. If people want to threaten to change or even close the park, they should make sure that they are addressing the right problem.

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Posted by Trevor on 07/29/2015 at 3:21 PM

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