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Re: “Race Issues Flare During Lieutenant Gubernatorial Debate

She is undoubtedly not getting the flu shot, for two reasons. First, the flu shot is part of the vast corporate-government-Big Pharma-military-industrial-Don Sinex-F35-Trump-Putin-Mayor Weinberger-pro development-anti union complex to invade our bodies, control our minds, and enslave us. Second, if she gets the flu, Bernie and Zuckerman can just heal her by laying their hands on her.

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Posted by knowyourassumptions on 10/23/2016 at 10:31 PM

Re: “Obeng Blasts Board Member for 'Sexist, Racist' Facebook Posts

I don't agree with Mr. Obeng putting pressure on the school board to try and squeeze one member out. While I *DO* strongly disagree with the messages underlying Mr. Kirk's social media postings, it is still not Mr. Obeng's position to judge the content of a board member's private communications and determine whether that member is fit for the board. In fact, Mr. Obeng was hired by and answers to the school board so it's really not his place at all to be "blasting" a member.

The school board members answer to the citizens of Burlington. If they are unhappy with him, it's up to them to force him out.

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Posted by Carol Denison on 10/23/2016 at 3:17 PM

Re: “Race Issues Flare During Lieutenant Gubernatorial Debate

Barbara Alslop, at your age I hope you're getting the flu shot.

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Posted by Paul Jones on 10/23/2016 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Obeng Blasts Board Member for 'Sexist, Racist' Facebook Posts

I don't expect to agree with everything that this administration does, but it is a sad statement to hire people and allow them to relocate some place beside Burlington. The person who lives in Shelburne and claimed financial hardship because they spent too much money on their home? If someone spends too much money on home improvements then let them get a job any place but Burlington city government. Their financial acumen and common sense is obviously lacking. The guy commuting from New Hampshire? The excuses have gone beyond the realm of reason.

Excuses are given and accepted as if Burlington voters are complete morons, that is what I find most offensive. Having the ability to exempt is a good idea but it has been badly abused. It has been hard to support Mr. Obeng when he expects us all to accept his flimsy excuses. We have all gone to schools with classmates whose parents were principals and/or administrators. This is extremely common and completely non-problematic for the students or parents.

And this school board member was elected presumably with his voters knowing his positions. As much as I find them distasteful, if he can fight against the teacher's union, I support him. The teachers demands are completely out of control and voters need anyone who can help keep the teachers from bankrupting Burlington's taxpayers.

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Posted by Julie Green on 10/22/2016 at 5:26 PM

Re: “Race Issues Flare During Lieutenant Gubernatorial Debate

Mr. Ass, it's nice to see you are alive and well, and can actually write a long post, even if it starts with OMG. I am well aware of David's past stands on this issue, and if you watched the debate, he said exactly what I reported. To call him anti-science is your own take on past actions he has taken. Whether you believe in good conscience that politicians cannot change, you should say so. The fact that he voted to preserve the philosophical objection was a statement of the general principle that parents have the right to make these decisions, which I believe is his personal belief. But that is not the answer he gave at the debate. What he gave at the debate was an evolving position. I guess you don't think he's allowed to evolve.

And your reference to "mainstream religions" with regard to religious exemptions shows your disregard for the First Amendment. If only mainstream religions were protected, wouldn't that violate the others' constitutional rights?

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Posted by Barbara Alsop on 10/22/2016 at 3:54 PM

Re: “Bourgoin Discharged From Hospital, Held in Prison

In light of other articles posted here and elsewhere about the possibility that this man has some potentially serious mental health issues, I hope he is not being held in a way that compromises his access for help for this possible condition. After all, if he is held in such a way as to increase his symptoms he may become incompetent to stand trial. Then DOC will be on hook for arranging his treatment, and we can't have that, can we?

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Posted by Barbara Alsop on 10/22/2016 at 1:17 AM

Re: “Obeng Blasts Board Member for 'Sexist, Racist' Facebook Posts

Very appropriate for Superintendent leadership on this and am gratified to see Mr. Obeng acting ethically and morally on this issue.

That said, our students and staff (and law-abiding taxpayers) also deserve a Superintendent who does not lie during the interview process and who does not break the law. Instead, Mr. Obeng lied, saying he intended to live in Burlington, as required by City law at the time he was hired. Imagine the shock when instead he moved to South Burlington. The residency requirement was enacted with good reason, so the people at the top are not exempt from the real-world consequences of their decisions. Mr. Obeng openly flouts this & voted with his feet, saying Burlington is good enough to pay his salary but not good enough for his family to live in. "Do as I say; not as I do" is the read-between-the-lines lesson learned by the students he is supposed to lead.

In spite of the voters overwhelmingly rejecting attempts to eliminate the residency requirement for city leaders (defeated at the ballot box twice in the last 15 years), the Mayor and majority City Council then shamefully recently amended the law to pretend that living anywhere within the borders of Chittenden County is the same as living in Burlington city limits. This amendment completely undermines the law and the will of the voters. We've come a long way from the years when Bernie Sanders was mayor, and not always in the right direction.

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Posted by Chris in S. Burlington on 10/22/2016 at 12:31 AM

Re: “Courting Democrats, Republican Phil Scott Airs a Familiar Ad

Of course parties change over time. Still, for decades Franklin County Dems as a group have pulled to the right of Dems in many other Vermont Counties. So when Mr Cioffi talks about the party not being the same as when he was growing up, it could have as much to do with where he is from--and I grew up there too, so this isn't purely theoretical--as the party.

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Posted by Dean Pierce on 10/21/2016 at 10:28 PM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

Yeah right, Tiki. Russia is the real enemy. Look! Squirrel!

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Posted by Mt.Philo on 10/21/2016 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Burlington’s Teachers and School District Reach Agreement, Avert Strike

knowyourassumptions, have you met the kettle?

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Posted by Mt.Philo on 10/21/2016 at 8:37 PM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

"1st, I dont beg, OMeara Sanders tweeted ..She's right, she just lies and the books.. Remember Burlington College.. she changed the pledges amounts, no one else did it, just her, then she walked off with $250,000. Don't believe anything that comes out her mouth..

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Posted by Donna Boutin on 10/21/2016 at 7:16 PM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

Ryan - Your claims can be heard loud and clear from Trump himself. Hillary in the last debate stated that 17 security agencies confirmed the hack by Russians. Here's her direct quote confirmed as true by Politifact:

"We have 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin, and they are designed to influence our election."

You're welcome to ignore the Director of National Intelligence's own assessment, but facts are facts. The Russians routinely engage in deception whether putting large balloons in fields that resemble military hardware or claiming via RT that Belgium is actually responsible for bombing Aleppo.

It is downright careless to state that journalists are not responsible for corroborating sources. That's exactly what got us into the Iraq war. Ask Judith Miller how that worked out for her.

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Posted by Tiki Archambeau on 10/21/2016 at 4:46 PM

Re: “Burlington’s Teachers and School District Reach Agreement, Avert Strike

You appear to be incapable or unwilling to hear what people are saying about the significant difference between: a) the salaries of public, government employees -- i.e., teachers -- and their never-ending demand for more, more, more and b) the income of the average Vermonters who are supporting those public employees and their inability to sustain the public employees' never-ending demands for more. You repeat the same, tired talking point over and over.

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Posted by knowyourassumptions on 10/21/2016 at 3:59 PM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

Tiki Archambeau - You are arguing that information made public that embarrasses some of the most powerful people in the world could be doctored and is therefore non-credible. That is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence, of which yours seems to be that the very people that the information embarrasses are saying that the Russians are doing it and the public ought to shield their eyes from this propaganda.

There is NO compelling evidence this information was doctored (and trust me, people have looked). There isn't even compelling evidence that the Russians participated in the hack. Is it plausible? Sure it is! It is plausible that Trump himself hired someone for the hack, but in this world you need evidence to back up assertions, especially when they are being used to shield the powerful from public scrutiny. These DNC talking points of yours have little basis in reality.

Criticizing a journalist for reporting on matters clearly in the public interest is shameful and speaks to an embarrassing trend in this country.

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Posted by Ryan on 10/21/2016 at 3:31 PM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

Does anyone want to be endorsed by a failed governor? Even Clinton can do better than Shumlin. But, they deserve each other.

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Posted by Walter Moses on 10/21/2016 at 3:21 PM

Re: “Vermont’s F-35 Opponents Get Their Day in Court

Really again we are upset that we try to defend our country with the best tools possible and we get cries of too much noise. man I wish i could afford to live near this airport as i would enjoy watching the air show.
We could base biplanes there but when an emergency occurs they will be useless as will this airport without planes. if you dont like it move.

Posted by James Ocker on 10/21/2016 at 12:31 PM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

"We are going to have to rebuild within this wild wild west of information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to" Obama. Or you could say Huma Abedin admits to a 12 million dollar pay for-play Morrocco. Of course facts like HILLARY used the Secretary of State office to become obscenely wealthy should be censored! This must be the work of those Damn commies. It only needs to be vetted because the spotlight fell on the wrong side of the hill.

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Posted by Green Mountain Boy on 10/21/2016 at 10:59 AM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

Russia leads an active propaganda campaign that makes themselves look good and the U.S. look bad. Look no further than their "news" channel, RT. They made news after a stream of reporters quit, accusing the organization of bowing to the Putin administration's editorial wishes.

Why is it so far fetched to think they would not alter content? They took possession of content (hacked emails), THEN fed it to Wikileaks. Doctoring a few lines here and there would never be contested as it would force Clinton to admit to controversial details.

We can't corroborate whether the Russians altered the emails, but that's exactly the point: The source is not credible. This is about journalistic integrity, not defending Hillary Clinton. Leahy's spokesman is right on this one. Heintz can do better.

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Posted by Tiki Archambeau on 10/21/2016 at 10:11 AM

Re: “Jane Sanders Calls Shumlin’s Clinton Endorsement ‘Worthless’

Let's be clear folks- there is zero evidence other than government officials being taken at their word that the Russians are behind these breaches. Even if they are (which is plausible but ought to require proof) then the content of those emails is still in the public interest. Government officials frequently leak information to reporters for nefarious or political motivations, and that does not mean what they are leaking is not newsworthy. Thanks Paul for doing the digging here.

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Posted by Ryan on 10/21/2016 at 9:19 AM

Re: “Burlington’s Teachers and School District Reach Agreement, Avert Strike

Those fat cat teachers. Those of us who feel our taxes are too high should do our best to tear them down. There's no room for people earning decent wages in this state. Use our taxes to build the tall mall. We need more clerk jobs.

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Posted by Mark Lade on 10/21/2016 at 7:28 AM

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