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Re: “Immune-Boosting Fire Cider Packs Heat

Actually been available for a while..https://firecider.com

Posted by ArtBell on 02/23/2017 at 4:40 PM

Re: “Unlikely Allies Seek to Make Vermont's Milk the Cream of the Industry

These guys are a little late to the game on this. I started a farmer owned milk company and a brand of fluid milk called Vermont Family Farms back in the 1990s. The State of Vermont and the coops did everything they could to put us out of business because we dared to stand up to the dairy establishment and market a premium, BST free milk produced exclusively by sustainable Vermont dairy farms. Our farmer owners had tough standards for milk quality and land and animal care and they were paid substantially more for their milk. Annual sales of our milk had surpassed $1,000,000 dollars by 2000 when the farmer owners decided to sell the brand of milk which was eventually purchased and driven into the ground by HP Hood.

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Posted by Steven A Judge on 02/23/2017 at 2:54 PM

Re: “Unlikely Allies Seek to Make Vermont's Milk the Cream of the Industry

The comments Secretary Allbee states as causing a need for change are no different than they have been for decades. His points could have been made more than once in each of the last four decades. Both conventional and organic dairy farmers have their struggles and yet both survive. There are fewer farms as counted by the government but the land being farmed, number of cows milked, etc have changed little if any. Most farms are consolidated. Instead of each family member buying their own farm they are joining together. This has made a huge difference in management styles and vacation opportunities. Having many owner/operators on a single farm can be a struggle but it does allow each to focus on their strengths instead of having to be a jack of all trades. Some owners are better at human resources, some crops and some might be more mechanically inclined. There is not a lack of young people looking to dairy as their future with passion and enthusiasm, my son being one of them.

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Posted by Margaret Huessy Laggis on 02/23/2017 at 9:33 AM

Re: “Unlikely Allies Seek to Make Vermont's Milk the Cream of the Industry

The question for Agrimark/Cabot and Ben & Jerry's is how they can profit from farmers who are losing money with every gallon of milk they sell for cheese and ice cream. We're all in this together folks. Are are we? Agrimark/Cabot needs to come to the table and figure out a way to compensate the producers for the product that makes Cabot cheese.

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Posted by A. Smith on 02/22/2017 at 6:03 PM

Re: “Unlikely Allies Seek to Make Vermont's Milk the Cream of the Industry

Milk and cheese are baby cow fattening liquid. They are a luxury we pay an artificially low price for. Getting strong, verifiable standards on the books here in Vermont (as opposed to just "organic") and marketing that milk to co-ops and Whole Foods-type stores around the country would really help struggling farmers. Some conventional farmers won't be able to hack it in a legal environment that protects our lake, soil, and climate. That's life.

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Posted by AdamGoch on 02/22/2017 at 12:53 PM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

president Trump is not trying to get rid of immigrants he's trying to get rid of the criminals the ones that are here illegally the illegal aliens are law state that if you're a criminal you need to be punished it doesn't matter what country you're from if you're here illegally your criminal I think any person that houses or employ these people should prosecuted for aiding and abetting a criminal

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Posted by pothead420 on 02/20/2017 at 7:35 PM

Re: “Breakwater Café Closes, Will Be Second Location for the Spot

Yay! Breakfast with a view! If they have live music, I hope they put in a real dance floor so no one sprains an ankle. Dancing on the waterfront on a midsummer evening with the breeze off the lake is so delightful. It was a shame when the Splash boathouse replaced the floor on the upper deck with waterproof flooring unsuitable for dancing...it wrecked it for the weekly salsa dance social.

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Posted by Donna Canney Walters on 02/18/2017 at 11:55 AM

Re: “Breakwater Café Closes, Will Be Second Location for the Spot

It will be great to have this site open for a breakfast crowd!

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Posted by Matt Kelly on 02/17/2017 at 6:48 PM

Re: “Dedalus Wine Shop, Market & Bar Debuts on February 20

Hey Jason. How's Pistou doing these days?

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Posted by The Oracle on 02/17/2017 at 6:10 PM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

You keep calling them undocumented. The real definition is ILLEGAL. If they are here illegally, then they should not be working or living in our country. Obey the law. That is all you have to fear. Countries who do not protect their borders are not really countries.

Try entering Canada or Mexico illegally and see where you end up. There are other people who want to and can milk cows. Dairy farmers need to try a bit harder to find that help, stop using the excuse you can't find anyone. Maybe try paying your help a little more.

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Posted by Jackie Schmidts on 02/17/2017 at 3:04 PM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

......those farms that break immigration law by employing illegals should not be given a free pass, but should be held accountable, because they steal prosperity from those farms that abide by immigration law.....

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Posted by Henry Parsons on 02/17/2017 at 1:17 AM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

I wonder what the "market hourly price" for someone (legal) to work 12 hour shifts milking cows (or growing/picking vegetables) would be? $50 per hour?

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Posted by Bud on 02/16/2017 at 5:02 PM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

This article and some of the quotes are misleading re: the **need** to milk cows. The dairy industry puts forward the false notion that cows just produce milk and without human intervention the cows would become overloaded with milk and sicken. In actuality, cows, like humans, produce milk to feed their babies and do not need humans to intervene...except that, because humans remove calves from their mothers and don't allow them to drink the milk that should be theirs, the cows have milk but no calves to drink it. Cows do not produce milk indefinitely and, just as calves are weaned from their mothers and the milk supply decreases, if milking by humans is gradually decreased the mother cow will eventually stop producing milk.

While the cultural and financial significance of the dairy industry in Vermont is important, it isn't a sustainable industry, because they rely on large taxpayer funded subsidies and underpaying/overworking their hired help, as outlined in this article. Vermont should look into other ways to foster economic vitality that create jobs with living wages and don't harm innocent mothers and babies.

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Posted by Lindsey83 on 02/15/2017 at 10:03 AM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

The mess this country now faces because we have not had boarder security for so long is unbelievable, and awful for all of us that live in this country both legally and illegally. It is not often that I praise 7days but on this story nice job presenting both sides of a very complicated issue. The farmer in the story that voted for Trump I assume cast that vote knowing that Trump is a business man first and a politician second. As a business man Trump's goal and the farmers goal are the same make money, and in order to do this the business menvironment in both of them know that to make money in business one must overcome obstacles. It's that business man attitude that will lead Trump to a,solution on immigration that works for everyone as long as he can keep politics out of it. I know lots of you think I'm nuts but you have to give things time. Trump did not win middle America because he hates farmers remember that.

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Posted by citizen on 02/15/2017 at 9:16 AM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

Once I read the farmer that was interviewed voted for Trump, I read no more. I hope he gets what he deserves. I can't believe he admits its.

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Posted by Bryan Bouchard on 02/15/2017 at 8:17 AM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

What is wrong with our priorities? The money spent in trying to catch people here working hard to do jobs that no one else can do should be spent on creating a long-term guest worker program. This would eliminate the concern about workers being undocumented and keep our much needed workers here , hopefully with some protections.

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Posted by Lauren Berrizbeitia on 02/15/2017 at 5:26 AM

Re: “Fear on the Farm: Trump's Immigration Crackdown Threatens Vermont's Dairy Industry

Both parties seem to prefer to use this as a wedge issue rather than do anything about it. Heintz points out most recent effort under Obama/Leahy and its failure. Let's not forget Bush, Jr. pushed a very similar bill in 2007, that failed in the Senate because 33 Democrats voted together to defeat it. If those 33 Democrats had voted yes, it would have passed. And it provided 2 year temporary guest worker status, what these farmers want. Guess who sided with then-Congressman Mike Pence in voting no? Bernie Sanders.

President Bill Clinton had best chance of all. He publicly and privately supported the Barbara Jordan Commission recommendations in the mid-1990's. But then, Chinese campaign donors, who were providing illegal campaign financing for his 1996 reelection, asked Clinton to drop his support for chain migration reform and other parts of the immigration bill working its way through Congress. So Clinton reneged on his commitments and cut deals with corporatist Republicans for a watered-down bill. Well-covered in papers at the time.

Lot of media attention on Trump's actions now, justifiably. But history suggests that Democrats do not actually care any more about immigrants other than using it as a wedge issue (or, in Clinton's case, as bargaining chip to raise illegal funds from foreign donors). If they did, they would have voted for Bush, Jr.'s bill in 2007 (that was heavily criticized from the right as backdoor amnesty bill). That bill even included the DREAM act as one of its sub-sections.

I'd rank G.W. Bush up there with LBJ as worst president of last 50 plus years. But on this issue, he had almost no difference from Obama. Democrats refusal to work with him suggests this is all about wage exploitation, something which campaign donors to both parties benefit from.

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Posted by Chris in S. Burlington on 02/15/2017 at 12:43 AM

Re: “Local Favorite Sandwiches Stack Up

Ha, someone else knows Phil and Jim's, what a riot. We used to go to Philly more and would have them pack hoagies for travel, they know exactly how to do it so the bread does not get soggy, perfect. I am salivating now

Posted by Pixelvt on 02/13/2017 at 6:59 AM

Re: “Local Favorite Sandwiches Stack Up

I love Phil and Jims I wish they were here.

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Posted by Pat McGovern Michelson on 02/13/2017 at 1:51 AM

Re: “Local Favorite Sandwiches Stack Up

Growing up in Philly, raised on Philly Hoagies" (big difference) using Amoroso's rolls, made in small neighborhood deli shops, has always jaded my opinions about so called subs elsewhere including Vermont. The main problem is the rolls, nothing compares to Amoroso's for hoagie rolls, period.

A Philly hoagie done right is not overloaded with meat, it is a finely crafted sandwich made with Provelone, Pepper Ham, Capicola, and Genoa Salami. The roll is NEVER sliced in half and a hinge is left and often extra bread is stripped from the insides of the roll. Cheese is always the first thing to go over the hinge using a few slices to reinforce the hinge so the sandwich does not fall apart. Then a few thin slices of Capicola and Salami are layered. Next lettuce, tomato, onions, and ideally hot peppers (or sweet or pickles). Add Oregano flakes, oil, and finally layer the pepper ham on top.

Yes I am picky, but that is how its done and I have seen nothing close in Vermont. BTW Amoroso's rolls are available here, I know two places that use them around Burlington, one of which I offered the Philly hoagie recipe too and looked at me like I was from, well, Philly I guess. I will try King's deli and see if I can convince them to do a hoagie as described above. If any deli shops read this and want more info post how to reach you.

One final note, yes Philly is known for its cheese steaks, which the best of them are made right along with hoagies using, you guessed it, Amoroso's roll. And the best ones are NOT at Pat's and Gino's, do not use cheese whiz, and are made in the neighborhood delis to this day, like my favorite Phil and Jims's in Chester, PA. (see FaceBook)

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Posted by Pixelvt on 02/10/2017 at 6:26 AM

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