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Re: “The Odd Couple: Starch-Shirted Brock, Ponytailed Zuckerman Vie for LG

I think it would make your story more interesting if you mentioned that Zuckerman and his wife are trust fund babies, while Randy Brock is an African American who had to buy a trailer while he was stationed in Kentucky because he couldn't get housing because of his race. If Randy was a Democrat or Progressive, you would no doubt note his race. Your article's premise is that Republicans come from privileged classes while Progressives are just working people. Just the opposite is true in this case, as in the case of other state wide Vermont races. The Republicans are the outsiders from working class and middle class roots. The Democrats and Progressives are the wealthy well connected Establishment. And I thought Seven Days was an anti- establishment paper. Guess not.

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Posted by Deb Bucknam on 09/22/2016 at 6:48 AM

Re: “The Odd Couple: Starch-Shirted Brock, Ponytailed Zuckerman Vie for LG

Ok. How about we talk about his dishonesty in taking legislative per diems that he admitted he didn't earn? How about we talk about how much of the state's money he wasted on the failed GMO law?

20 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by knowyourassumptions on 09/21/2016 at 10:07 PM

Re: “The Odd Couple: Starch-Shirted Brock, Ponytailed Zuckerman Vie for LG

Still looking for an article about Zuckerman that doesn't mention his ponytail.

7 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Russell Belding on 09/21/2016 at 3:08 PM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

That is what we call burying the lede. The last sentence of the Scott piece: "And to be honest with you, I'm a staunch Phil Scott supporter, and I'm gonna vote for him."

Posted by Chris Roy on 09/21/2016 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

I'm sure that Paul has never had a hard spot in HIS life.

2 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by ezduzit on 09/19/2016 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

We need a discussion about Paul's premise that lobbyists and anything connected to them are somehow scandalous. I was Elliott Bent's boss for three years. He is really good, really smart, really hard-working and gives a dam about Vermont. He will be a great asset to Sue Minter. The press needs to get over its lobbyist hangup. Does Paul think Elliott should not work for the campaign? I just don't get the automatic assumption that lobbyists are scumbags who bring corruption to a campaign. I'd like to see Paul devote a column to this subject. Otherwise, its just cheap shots.

4 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by Kevin Ellis on 09/16/2016 at 3:58 PM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

Talk about a non-story. I mean, I guess people have a right to know but I kinda wish I had that 3 minutes back.
If failing at a business over a decade ago is a disqualification then you can count a LOT of people out of public service.

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Posted by Tod Moses on 09/16/2016 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

This article feels like nothing more than an attempt to discredit Phil Scott with a sensational headline, when all accounts from people who know him and work with him seem to indicate that he is a good-hearted, ethical business man and human being (this also appears to include the majority of people who deal with him in Montpelier). To try to sling mud at him over something that happened 20 years ago, early in his career and in a business that's notoriously tough to run even by those who HAVE experience, seems sketchy at best....particularly when even the man he allegedly was "screwing" says (at the very end of the piece, of course) that Phil is a gentleman, made the situation right, and that he will vote for him. I don't know Phil Scott, but as a small business owner, this story says to me that he may actually understand and appreciate the myriad challenges faced by people who own small businesses...something that feels like it's badly needed in Vermont.

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Posted by tracystolese on 09/16/2016 at 11:06 AM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

Wow, it's sad to see an obvious attempt to try to conjure up a hit piece on Scott...

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Posted by Andy Parker on 09/15/2016 at 8:27 PM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

Phil Scott had a difficult financial situation - and in the end everyone was paid in full. An interesting contrast to Trump's 6 bankruptcies!

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Posted by Marc Landry on 09/15/2016 at 6:32 PM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

So you run the inevitable sensationally headlined hit piece on Phil Scott, dredging up some really ancient history (20 years ago), & complete this bologna sandwich with layers of Leahy nepotism dug up for you by VTDigger, then you rant about Minter's campaign spokesperson's history of being stuck in the revolving door as a lobbyist, & leave us cold with a "print media is dead" observation. You need to dig up a better October surprise.

9 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Linus Leavens on 09/15/2016 at 12:31 PM

Re: “Unfinished Business: How Phil Scott Lost a Nightclub

Someone at least get Milne a constitution! Also didn't his daughter work for legislative counsel while working on his campaign? Maybe Milne should be more concerned about his own family following current laws.

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Posted by ReppintheRepublicans on 09/14/2016 at 1:15 PM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

Why doesn't Paul have the guts and/or integrity to write an article without Bias.
The real Refugees are the Vermont Refugees leaving their homes for other states because they have to leave here to find an affordable life situation. The question of affordability in this state is of course the biggie. To me the lack of personal liberty in this state is just as big. Vermont is always at the very bottom of the list of states showing in order of personal liberties. I supported Dr. Ben Carson for three years, but in Vermont,,, I am a racist. I moved here from a state where I had a friend who moved from the NY/NJ area after one of their wife's was killed in the World Trade Center. Ten Muslim families (all related) moved to our area to avoid the extremism which they knew was coming in the future. We got to be good enough friends to where we could talk openly about the differences in our religions and society's. We are still friends today but by Rutland and Vermont standards, I am a bigot for wishing for vetting without incompotence. Look at the competency of MontP. sewage and stormwater spills almost weekly in a dryer season totaling millions and millions of gallons, paying $ 40,000 in a court settlement to an illegal immigrant. the health care debacle, knowledge of the jay peak debacle, and on, and on, and on. No matter how incompetent, it's just all ok somehow. Why doesn't Rutland and MontP take care of their own first as to not cause the out flux of Vermont refugees leaving the state, and then worry about importing and why can't Paul write anything with the honesty and open mindedness to show the truth about both sides.

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Posted by ezduzit on 09/09/2016 at 2:16 PM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

I'm a white, middle-aged, Irish-Scotch / Acadian-French man whose ancestors came here during two huge European emigrations of the late 19th and mid-20th century. When Irish & Scots were considered the lowest of the low, next to black slaves and nearly eradicated Indians. When Catholics were considered barbaric papists.

All these white guys complain that their ancestors worked hard, didn't ask for handouts, etc. But Syrian refugees do. It's ironic, of course, these guys with Irish & Italian last names, deriding the outsider, mocking his religion, calling him lazy & shiftless. Just like their great-grandfathers were by the white Anglo Americans who got here before them.

I certainly feel better about paying for refugee resettlement, especially when we caused the problem (speaking of tax dolalrs) to the tune of $3 trillion with "t", with FAILED wars against "terror". It's a pin the bucket to help people rather than bomb them or sentence the to more bombing, and it's a far better investment than the thousands of white Rut-Vegasites living off the public dole. You drive through there, and you see how your tax dollars are spent subsidizing laziness, ignorance, and reliance on government.

10 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Egmatic on 09/09/2016 at 10:12 AM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

Egmatic, why does the ethnicity of most of Rutland matter?

Why do you hate those of Scots-Irish-French decent so much?

Please, let's not bring race or ethnicity into this.

This is about property taxes.

You're an anti-white bigot, quite frankly.

6 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by Ed Furley on 09/09/2016 at 1:36 AM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

Continuing, Egmatic, I never said education is bad. I made a joke about a "Master's in something worthless" such as social work or something.

A doctor or an engineer with a Master's in solid state physics isn't worthless. Although, the only Masters that matter are in hard sciences.

However, most "education" these days is propaganda. The 60's radicals are now strangely government cheerleaders. Weird.

Furthermore, you never addressed the "who's going to pay for this stuff" part. Who, indeed?

What are your property taxes looking like this year?

Mine are 4.5K. And I'm not exactly living in Shelburne Farms.

I don't have kids, I've literally (and by literally I mean literally, not the way my Millennial cohorts usually use the term) never borrowed a dime in my life. I'm supposed to pay for other people to...

a) learn English at a rate of $50K a year (that's why BTV property taxes are so high. the share education money pool brought to us by Howard Dean via Act 60, baby)
b) feed, clothe and house them. All because of somebody else's bad decisions. or because Obama declared an undeclared war in Syria over a pipeline issue with Russia. Look it up. That's what Syria is about.

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Posted by Ed Furley on 09/09/2016 at 1:32 AM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

Egmatic, here's the response.

First off, you responded to both me in and the O'Brien guy in the same post. Solid.

Keeping tracking of things is for suckers.

There's a bunch of things I can nail you on, but this it Seven Days, which is awful outside of food recommendations so I'm not sure why I'm doing this. Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment.


Every time a libertarian person makes a statement, a "cultural marxist" shows up and says "CITATION NEEDED". It was sort of a joke. And also turning the tables. A libertarian aka "right wing" person needs to provide facts.

A massively left-wing person needs to make a statement and let other people do the research.

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Posted by Ed Furley on 09/09/2016 at 1:24 AM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

I live 100 miles from Rutland. I know a few people who live there. I've been following this issue in the press and social media, like everyone else. Here is what I see: some real concerns. Some unanswered questions. Some fear, founded and unfounded. Political posturing. Some pretty crude comments about other cultures. State and local government have not helped themselves by sometimes branding responses to their resettlement decisions as bigoted and baseless. The VT Health Dept., in particular, treated honest, straightforward questions about latent TB in refugees like, well, the Plague.

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Posted by Guy Page on 09/08/2016 at 10:53 AM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

Ed Furley, yes, all those towns were will on their way to being sh*@holes. Just like Rutland! Just like all Northeastern manufacturing towns. But Rut;and is an embarrassment of a city that seems to slide downhill more each year. Obviously these white people who work so darn hard and see no opportunity for themselves are not the hope of the future of long-expired cities like Rutland.

It now seems it's being held back by the ignorance and provincialism of the super-majority of white (Scot-Irish-French) residents. It needs immigrants to rejuvenate it, just like Utica, Toledo...

Why are citations needed? I'm not your research assistant. Numerous articles have been written about all the towns I cited. Google a bit, you'll see that if you look outside your narrow aspect, lots of things are happening in the world that are simply contrary to conventional wisdom, popular opinion, and the BS perpetrated by bigots, patriots, and conservative action groups.

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Posted by Egmatic on 09/08/2016 at 10:09 AM

Re: “Rutland First: Vermont's Homegrown Opposition to Syrian Resettlement

Hey O'Brien... Refugees overwhelmingly work for a living, pay their own rent, and pay taxes. Compared to the thousands of working-class white people on the dole in Rutland County, who only siphon off the revenue you supposedly work so hard to pay. You've got your enemies all wrong... your enemies are your white neighbors... .not Syrian refugees whose terrible situation was CAUSED BY OUR FAILED WARS and our the Repugnicrats and Demopublicans whose campaign officers are filled by military contractors.

There's zero evidence that Syrian refugees work less hard than your (or any or our) ancestors. remember, the Irish and the Italians were considered worse than chattel, only good for labor, and thought of as lazy migrants who sucked of the public teat.

Bigotry has many faces, including your brand of protectionism. Patriotism with no accountability is the problem in Rutland and other areas where people ignore the facts and react against refugees out of fear, ignorance, and self-doubt. If you were secure in your own ability to earn a living, you'd welcome refugees who can only support and grow the economy around you. Just like your forebears did when they arrived, whoever they were.

What question did you have for my "faulty logic"? ... ... ... Does having a Master's degree preclude me from having an opinion? It certainly seems far more educated than your own. ...

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Posted by Egmatic on 09/08/2016 at 9:59 AM

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