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Re: “Arborcide: In Burlington, Vandals Target Trees

"Much of the wood for McNeil comes from clearcutting." Prove it.

Clearly the Rankin cycle can only be approx. 25-30% efficient...at best. I'm not arguing that the McNeil plant is an efficient use of resources but once again, your original point was comparing vandalizing planted trees in an urban environment to silviculture as a form of vandalism. Clearly not the same thing.

I do agree that burning wood for electrical production is not an efficient use of the resource, unless there is cogeneration involved and the waste heat is being used for heating. This has been the intention from the beginning at McNeil, but unfortunately it hasn't happened...yet.

"Also the carbon footprint from McNeil is 50% worse than a coal plant in terms of carbon released per energy produced, so just about any source would be better than burning trees based on climate concerns."

Once again...prove it. You would really rather have a coal plant in Burlington? There already was one, called Moran. The citizens of Burlington voted to shut it down and build McNeil...using the democratic process. And then they voted to have the most state of the art emissions controls installed and paid for with taxpayer dollars.

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Posted by Mdavis on 07/14/2014 at 10:36 PM

Re: “Arborcide: In Burlington, Vandals Target Trees

Comparing responsible forest management to the vandalism of planted trees in an urban environment is silly. Really, are you actually suggesting that there is a reasonable comparison here? Would you rather have the energy McNeil generates come from Hydro Quebec? This uber VT Nimbyism is getting kind of old. No Nukes, no Wind, No Solar, no logging, no fracking, no VT gas, no hydro, no ______. Where is the electricity to power your smart phone and laptop going to come from?

I encourage you to learn a little more about silviculture and forest management. I checked out the map and saw nothing more than a bunch of managed forests. Most of these land owners are likely in the current use program and are harvesting timber and firewood, or chip wood, or managing sugarwoods. Likely so they can avoid having to sell their land to developers and keep it in their family. Would you prefer condos or housing developments over managed woodlots?

Reality check. There is no free lunch. Even the tomato on your gluten free vegan sandwich was killed and the plant it came from cut down and tilled back into the soil. Go visit a farm or a managed woodlot. Talk to a landowner that cares for their land and harvests timber and firewood. Get a clue.

You likely live in a house made of wood and wipe your bung with toilet paper. Where did those resources come from? Trees. Comparing intentionally injuring or vandalizing a tree to silviculture is absurd.

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Posted by Mdavis on 07/12/2014 at 9:57 PM

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