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Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

Ive been to Burton many times. I have no opinion on whether Higher Ground should have a music club there, but 152 Industrial Parkway is NOT a residential location. It is not the night clubbing of a neighborhood as you call it. If you cant put a club in a warehouse in an industrial section of the city, across the street from a GMT bus depot, far from the nearest house, you cant put one anywhere. More Burlington NIMBYism.

Posted by knowyourassumptions on 06/19/2019 at 6:38 AM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

jgbtv - thanks, I appreciate it. some people get really touchy about second thoughts. There's a fellow goofing on me in this thread. We have this oil and water thing.
Mr Assumptions - I appreciate your passion, but I wasn't saying no one should have a pseudonym - I had one myself for a while. Then I decided to use my name. If you get a kick out of using that name, go ahead.
I do know what you mean about "Masters of the Universe," but perhaps he's a lad who means well. He paid Joan Shannon a compliment, and I concur. (Thanks, Joan.) Is it ironic? Can't say.
As far as this project, it's a nice idea, but I wish it wouldn't be close to so many people who might be tormented by the night-clubbing of their neighborhood. Industrial Road is quiet and narrow - you've been there?

Posted by Charlie Messing on 06/18/2019 at 11:27 PM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

@Charlie

Fair point, I was going to chime in and voice my support for the project, but got sidetracked by a comment that seemed more like a synopsis of a Pynchon novel than a cogent critique of the matter at hand. I didnt mean to come off that snarky... I guess my snark-ometer is permanently set at millennial hipster level.

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Posted by jgbtv on 06/18/2019 at 10:10 PM
Posted by Barbara Alsop on 06/18/2019 at 9:01 PM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Bill That Would Force Polluters to Pay for Medical Monitoring

You have no idea what you*re talking about. You have not read the bill.

There, Just-Took-A-Bong-Hit-Alsop, I fixed it for you.

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Posted by knowyourassumptions on 06/18/2019 at 7:08 PM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Bill That Would Force Polluters to Pay for Medical Monitoring

In this world of managed medical care and draconian copays, it is only reasonable to ask the polluters to pay the costs of medical monitoring after the pollution is discovered.

There, knowyourassumptions, I fixed it for you.

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Posted by Barbara Alsop on 06/18/2019 at 6:46 PM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

@ Messing

"And the snarkiest comments always come from pseudonyms."

Seriously? Are you for real? You do realize that "jgbvt" -- whom you criticize for using a pseudonym in responding to OldNorthEnder -- was responding to the original snarky comment from a PSEUDONYMOUS poster? You can't criticize jgbtv for using a pseudonym when the original poster he is responding to was a pseudonym!!!

And the fact is, jgbtv is correct: OldNorthEnder constantly engages in hyperbole. According to him, the world is absolutely, positively coming to an end for one reason and one reason alone: because Miro is the mayor.

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Posted by knowyourassumptions on 06/18/2019 at 6:40 PM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

Say there jgbtv,
These comment threads are really useful when the comments address the issues. Calling another commenter names is not productive. And the snarkiest comments always come from pseudonyms.
No one even knows what you're getting at, because it's hidden in a smokescreen of snark.
Just give your opinion on the issue, or the article. Thank you.

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 06/18/2019 at 5:20 PM

Re: “UVM Researchers Study Benefit of Sheep Grazing Shelburne Vineyard

Really interesting!

Tweeted excerpt,
That relationship, Niles discovered, is symbiotic...Moreover..those benefits were reaped regardless of the vineyards' size....

Posted by adan1950@gmail.com on 06/18/2019 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Bill That Would Force Polluters to Pay for Medical Monitoring

Corporate capture of government and regulatory agencies just goes on . . .and on . . . and on . . .

There is a very good article on The Intercept about how PFOA levels should be 700 times lower than already EPA allows.

Drink up, folks . . Happy Hour is now enforced by law . . .

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Posted by NorthOldEnder on 06/18/2019 at 3:34 PM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Bill That Would Force Polluters to Pay for Medical Monitoring

So that's what Scott means by a "business friendly" environment.

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Posted by OldVTHippy on 06/18/2019 at 2:53 PM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

@NorthOldEnder

Are you always this hyperbolic, or just when commenting on 7Days articles? I'm sure the "Masters of the Universe" are laughing from on high now that the foolish city council have voted to allow two non-profits, and a host of local success stories to congregate under the same roof.

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Posted by jgbtv on 06/18/2019 at 2:51 PM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

I couldn't attend the hearing last night, but am happy to see the result. I live around the corner from Burton, and I strongly support this change. Burlington is vibrant city. I choose to live here because of all it offers in terms of culture, recreation and entertainment, and to me this change fits right in to that vision. Hanging on to a sleepy, nostalgic view of Vermont and Burlington especially will not foster an inviting, thriving future for our kids and our town. I plan to participate actively in the next steps to ensure appropriate measures are taken on behalf of area residents as the project moves forward. To me, that's the right balance.

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Posted by Madrid on 06/18/2019 at 2:50 PM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Bill That Would Force Polluters to Pay for Medical Monitoring

You already can be sued for poisoning people. Anyone absolutely can sue a company that releases a chemical that causes that person harm. And the government can sue the company, too. Please tell me you are aware of these basic facts about our legal system.

Guess you don't know what this bill would have done. It would have allowed you to sue a company: 1) for releases that laws and regulations allow, AND 2) without any evidence that you have actually been hurt. Repeat after me: Without. Any. Evidence. That. You. Have. Been. Hurt.

If that sounds c-c-c-crazy it's because it is.

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Posted by knowyourassumptions on 06/18/2019 at 2:50 PM

Re: “Chef Contos Closes Shelburne Shop, Focuses on Wellness

I have a gift certificate to the store that I had been waiting to use. This sucks.

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Posted by NinaW on 06/18/2019 at 2:28 PM

Re: “Burlington City Councilor Hired to Lead BTV Ignite

Councilor Roof impresses me..he listens, researches issues thoroughly, and weighs the options carefully. I may disagree with a particular vote, however, I respect his honest, earnest and enthusiastic approach to his civic duties as my Councilor.

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Posted by Anne Bemis on 06/18/2019 at 1:30 PM

Re: “The Cannabis Catch-Up: Colorado's Weed Tax Revenue Surpasses $1 Billion

Vermont once progressive,now a redneck state run by a nascar driver. I thought i'd seen statewide polls
showing overwhelming support in VT for legalizing MJ but i guess in this age of failed politicians,anything goes but the will of the people. This is supposedly all about " spit ", a totally made up excuse.

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Posted by Ted Sargent on 06/18/2019 at 12:44 PM

Re: “SunCommon Conflict? How VPIRG's Solar Spinoff Company Went From Org to Inc.

We won't stand for a tax, fee or penalty based a carbon metric.

#NoCarbonTaxVermont

Posted by JT Dodge on 06/18/2019 at 12:32 PM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

This is not a done deal. Burton is now able to apply for a conditional use permit. They must prove that this is an appropriate use in this area. Council and zoning kept saying that neighbors could push for mitigation of problems in development review board
The neighbors are not done opposing this use

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Posted by E Nelson on 06/18/2019 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Zoning Change Will Allow Burton to Move Forward With Music Venue

Corporate greed and profits will always crush public concern, health and safety in the long run. They have a friend in City Hall who is willing to shove aside any resistance to over-development and all of its attending problems and consequences. It's called being "vibrant" by the Masters of the Universe.

A sure sign of gluttony is not knowing when too much is beyond being sustainable. It is the illusion of the Free Market and Neo-liberal economics. It is as natural as breathing, isn't it?

It is ironic that Joan Shannon, of all people, is suddenly horrified by having a big project in her ward. Well, dear, have an IPA, enjoy the arts and do some shopping and join the Elect and Elite. This won't be the last time you get stabbed in the back by the monied interests that are the real Shot Callers in Chittenden county.

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Posted by NorthOldEnder on 06/18/2019 at 10:00 AM

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