Seven Days | Vermont's Independent Voice | Comment Archives | stories | Arts + Life | History

Narrow Search

  • Show Only

  • Category

  • Narrow by Date

    • All
    • Today
    • Last 7 Days
    • Last 30 Days
    • Select a Date Range

Comment Archives: stories: Arts + Life: History

Re: “An Almost-Auction of Abenaki Artifacts Reopens Old Wounds

Well first off I wasn't speaking about you Brett T. whoever "you" or or your mother are. She might be "Abenaki" she might even have a membership card now or past tense. That's doesn't make her an Abenaki. But then again, you aren't using your full name so transparency, (as usual)... is one sided here. So prove me wrong, respectfully said. SHOW me the evidence that proves that your mother was/ is an Abenaki. What is her name, birth date, parents names, dates, places, her parents names and births, marriage, deaths, and locations. Again, it's about transparency.

AND then show me how digging up the skeletal remains and artifacts connect to your mother or any of her ancestors, that are being dug up in and around Swanton, by state-sanctioned looters called archaeologists! When you can the above requests, then by all means I will be proven wrong. Until then I stand by what I've stated in my initial post. And that is, that these skeletal remains of indigenous peoples buried in N'dakinna (Swanton in particular) do not belong ancestrally or otherwise to you, to your mother, or any of your ancestors, and certainly not to the group up there in Swanton. It's identity theft and blatant theft (imho) based on my research, the State's research by the AG's Office, and the BIA's research and just plain common sense!

Posted by Douglas Buchholz on 09/18/2018 at 8:58 PM

Re: “An Almost-Auction of Abenaki Artifacts Reopens Old Wounds

Are you saying my mother isnt an Abenaki from the Swanton, VT area? Youre wrong

0 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Brett T on 09/18/2018 at 8:43 PM

Re: “Final Tour of St. Joseph's Orphanage Spurs Haunting Memories

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER AN AFRICAN AMERICAN BOY IN 1961 BETWEEN AGES 3 TO 5 AT ST JOSEPH ORPHANAGE IN VERMONT

Posted by MAURA LABELLE on 09/16/2018 at 6:59 AM

Re: “Vermont Considers Dumping Dorothy Canfield Fisher Over Ties to Eugenics Movement

After reading the article I am saddened, because I have grown up with the DCF book award and it was a large but of my childhood. Despite that I do believe Dow and agree that some of the things Fisher has done should make her/her name ineligible for such an award.

Posted by Sloan Wyse on 09/13/2018 at 7:34 PM

Re: “Japanese Atomic Bomb Survivors Bring Their Stories to Vermont

I wonder what Healthy Living has to say about this...

Posted by The Oracle on 09/13/2018 at 11:55 AM

Re: “Vermont Considers Dumping Dorothy Canfield Fisher Over Ties to Eugenics Movement

It seems that we we are having a very hard time trying to deal with people who say very nice things and are helpful to the community but then as a person they make bad decisions and actions.

Posted by Alex Lier on 09/13/2018 at 9:36 AM

Re: “Japanese Atomic Bomb Survivors Bring Their Stories to Vermont

The accounts are truly moving. Yet we are blindly marching towards third world war. Why?
The pattern of history is clear. Power (manifested as interest) has been present in every conflict throughout history no exception. It is the underlying motivation for war. Other cultural factors might change, but not power.
Interest cuts across all apparently unifying principles: family, kin, nation, religion, ideology, politics - everything. We unite with the enemies of our principles, because that is what serves our interest. It is power, not any of the above concepts, that is the cause of war.
It is the one thing we will destroy ourselves for, as well as everyone else. When core interests are threatened and existential threat looms nations go to war. There can be no compromise on these. As a result every civilization/nation eventually gets the war it is trying to avoid: utter defeat. This applies as much today as any other time in history. Deterrence doctrine, made for the 20th century Cold War is irrelevant in the 21st and will ultimately fail us. Deterrence can no longer prevent the scenarios where Mutual Assured Destruction will be resorted to. We will soon face the scenario that (unlike the Cuban missile crisis) one protagonist will not be able to step back from the brink, blindly stumbling into a situation they cannot de-escalate. All that is left is Deterrences fall-back position annihilation.
Leaders and decision-makers delude themselves, thinking they can avoid their fate they cant. If survival is threatened, there is no alternative to war, however destructive.
http://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

Posted by peter mcloughlin on 09/13/2018 at 7:52 AM

Re: “Final Tour of St. Joseph's Orphanage Spurs Haunting Memories

I have been reading all of the articles and would love to meet some of the people who lived there or had relatives and friends that lived there. You can email me at Gigrape@hotmail.com

Posted by Gi Grape on 09/08/2018 at 1:51 PM

Re: “Final Tour of St. Joseph's Orphanage Spurs Haunting Memories

My mother left the Catholic Church when her father died in 1951, when I was five years old. She told me often of the nuns in parochial school who would not brook the questions that she would ask as a small child, such as, if God is so smart, why did He create the fly. That got her a severe reprimand which her father responded to by threatening to cut off his support if they ever treated her that way again. What she objected to was a church which would not allow you to question authority and which threatened children with hellfire and told them that they were evil. As a result, I was raised with my brother and sisters in the Universalist Church, which taught tolerance and encouraged understanding and questioning. Everything that I have read about St. Joseph's Orphanage sounds like this ignorant and authoritarian church that my mother left and never returned to.

2 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by rwyckoff on 09/07/2018 at 7:34 PM

Re: “Final Tour of St. Joseph's Orphanage Spurs Haunting Memories

I do hope God has set aside a special place in hell for all those in positions of authority who abused innocent little children!

2 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by ginelda on 08/27/2018 at 2:08 PM

Re: “What's Wrong With the Vermont State Flag? Almost Everything, According to an Amateur Vexillologist

Simple solution: Change the flag from the current design to the Vermont Republic's old flag.

Posted by Billy Ruben on 08/05/2018 at 7:48 AM

Re: “Westford Ho!

After googling Westford senior citizens group I looked down the different hits that came up. One of them was this article! I loved reading about our little town. The article is a bit out of date as a lot has happened sense then. Though I would not be the one to talk too! An updated version would be so fantastic! One of the sad thing for us is The White Church is no longer functioning as a church. There are music series events held. And the Brick meeting house has finished the repares!
Thanks!
Cathy
Flutterbyhats@yahoo

Posted by Cathy Baker Gwozdz on 07/21/2018 at 4:03 AM

Re: “Final Tour of St. Joseph's Orphanage Spurs Haunting Memories

Does anyone know how I could find out if my great grandmother was there in 1880-1887? Is there a list of children anywhere? She and her sister aged out.

3 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Mary Adams-Moe on 04/08/2018 at 6:46 PM

Re: “Recalling the Flu Pandemic of 1918

Ken, do you think we'll see anything like the Spanish flu again? Some of the prediction markets are suggesting it's pretty likely inasmuch as you trust those (see here: http://bit.ly/2F3nvWx for instance)

Posted by Christian Williams on 03/01/2018 at 12:20 AM

Re: “Vermont's Tiny Historical Societies Have a Big Mission: Preserving the Past

Ever wonder why Burlington, the Queen City, largest metropolis in Vermont, has no historical museum? The main reason is the Fleming Museum at UVM. In the 1930s the Fleming director wanted to make the museum the premier Vermont history museum. He started an effort to collect relics from around the state. There was a flood of stuff brought to the museum, everything from hairs from John Brown's beard to nails from Ethan Allen's house. Hundreds of Vermont relics were dropped off, in fact more stuff came in then the museum knew what to do with. The museum opened an exhibit that went under the name of Colonial Vermont, Early New England, etc...displaying a 1/4 of the collection while most of it remained in storage. The physical collection had a related paper collection, Vermont archives-the Wilbur Collection, which eventually became today's Special Collections in the library. A decade after the push to collect Vermont historical objects the museum changed focus, needed space, and the director tried to unload the collection. He tried to give it to the Shelburne Museum but the SM declined. Some of the relics were literally thrown away but most of it went into storage where it remains today. The Fleming Museum was, for a while, considered the Burlington history museum, but the Fleming eventually decided it did not want to be that. The bulk of the collection remains in storage. Meanwhile, there has never again been a sustained effort to create an actual Burlington history museum.

1 like, 2 dislikes
Posted by Antiquarian on 01/13/2018 at 9:14 AM

Re: “Vermont Considers Dumping Dorothy Canfield Fisher Over Ties to Eugenics Movement

A poorly worded pamphlet, some out-of-context descriptions of fictional characters, serving on a board to promote "good people" moving to Vermont... Scant evidence to scuttle this accomplished woman off into the dustbin of history. Have you read "Little House on the Prarie" recently? Shockingly racist descriptions within led to some amazing conversations with my ten-year-old about how and why people held those views in the 1800's and early 1900's. We were able to talk about and contextualize these things because they were not "cleansed" from the book. Let's talk about the views this woman held or was perceived to have held... Let's investigate the true nature of the past and not symbolically "purify" the past, but rather understand it and see it for what it was so that its repugnant aspects not be repeated. Ms. Dow, acting as sole judge and jury, is practicing
a virtual form of eugenics on history, which, in my opinion, serves no one's best interest except, perhaps, her own.

6 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by candace on 09/26/2017 at 5:03 PM

Re: “Following the Trail of Vermont's African American Heritage

"No other race on the face of this earth is encouraged to "celebrate diversity" in the way that European peoples are."

This contemporarily myopic statement reveals the heart of a self pitying people without contrition or genuine compassion.

People of color and native Americans were not encouraged to celebrate diversity at the time that Europeans deemed that America was ripe for the taking. No, they were forced to endure it, and many were exterminated in the process.

Consider it a blessing that you're not subjected to the diversity options your European indentified ancestors inflicted upon others.

2 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by Survive2Thrive on 09/02/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Final Tour of St. Joseph's Orphanage Spurs Haunting Memories

I had no idea of the abuse at St Joseph's. How sad these innocent children had to go through that kind of treatment. I attended Catichism as a child and the nuns ,most of them, were very hateful to me. So I have no doubt this went on. There was a priest that took us into the cloke room and showed us huge pictures of Hell with huge fire pits and the devil. Threatned us if we didn't learn prayers I knew mine but couldn't recite them I was so terrified. It took me until I was an adult to realize it was one big guilt trip. I would love to hear more stories about life in the orphanage.

6 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Barbara Woods Baylis on 06/30/2017 at 10:33 PM

Re: “Vermont Considers Dumping Dorothy Canfield Fisher Over Ties to Eugenics Movement

Reminds me of the line from Monty Pythons' Life of Brian "All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

To judge anyone that was born in 1879 by todays standards is quite ludicrous.

19 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Mickey Nowak on 06/27/2017 at 1:44 PM

Re: “Vermont Considers Dumping Dorothy Canfield Fisher Over Ties to Eugenics Movement

The term Eugenics is much too broad, as a result it used to revise history and punish the reputations of dead people. Racehorses are the result of Eugenics as are the hundreds of dog breeds. The fact that the Nazis adopted it as rationale for racial profiling has denigrated those who believe only in genetics. In fact, Genetic Counseling is today a respected profession. Boy is that fascist.

6 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Fred J Abrahams on 06/26/2017 at 11:05 PM

Recent Comments

Keep up with us Seven Days a week!

Sign up for our fun and informative
newsletters:

All content © 2018 Da Capo Publishing, Inc. 255 So. Champlain St. Ste. 5, Burlington, VT 05401
Website powered by Foundation