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Re: “Ready or Not: Is Gentrification Inevitable in Burlington's Old North End?

Is anyone from 7Days going to bother to talk to people actually impacted by gentrification in the ONE? How about looking at declining rates of Section 8 housing (% of units given to Section 8 vouchers in even 2010 vs now) and asking how people like Bisonnettes, who admitted as much to the Claytons, are getting away with intentionally moving poor people out to St. A, Milton, etc in order to charge as much as possible for their units?

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Posted by Kae Burdo on 09/18/2018 at 5:32 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Tom S: It's true, we can never know the REAL truth just based on an article published in any venue. One has to wonder though about someone having six kids they can't afford.

Posted by BDE on 09/18/2018 at 1:21 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Lol, it'd be nice if any of the stuff surrounding Foote's story was true...she never faced a housing crisis, her kids were still housed, and she had capitalized on this entire situation because, and she said this explicitly, she wants to sit at home benefiting from her kids SSI. Y'all have been had, including you, 7 Days reporter. Maybe actually following up on what people say could be valuable?

Posted by Tom S on 09/17/2018 at 9:58 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Great article, I was Laura's neighbor once and I certainly remember Sandy. I moved out of Burlington to choose rural life but there are many times I miss the funky DIY vibe and strong community of the ONE. Laura's recognition is well deserved!

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Posted by Lauren Talbot on 09/08/2018 at 6:34 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

What an amazing human! Thanks Laura for all you do. The impact is much larger then you know.

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Posted by Corri Taylor on 09/06/2018 at 1:34 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Thank you for this excellent article! Laura Hale walks the walk more than anyone I know. I am sure this article was not comfortable for her, as she is a person who really cares about the impact of her work, not her reputation. But we need to read stories like these, to remember what it means to be a good neighbor. And hopefully, to consider how we can connect better with our own community.

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Posted by GFerep on 09/06/2018 at 9:48 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

"Whether you think people should have so many kids or none at all is an opinion best left to yourself"

Heather: You're entitled to your opinion as am I. Isn't that what this comment section is all about?

You're right it isn't going to help the present situation. But it is a critically needed conversation that needs to be happening publically and endlessly. Prevention children's suffering is the goal.

No it is not just about helping people in need. it is also about preventing the need and the suffering.

I cared for children in foster care, it is heart-wrenching. It formed my need to speak out about families having too many children that they cannot afford -- and unwanted children.

Ask workers in welfare offices if they want public conversation about it.

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Posted by BDE on 09/06/2018 at 9:24 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Whether you think people should have so many kids or none at all is an opinion best left to yourself

Heather: I couldn't disagree more. Period for you, not me. There is a much bigger picture here. Your opinion is no more important than mine. That is the point of comments sections.

You're right it isn't going to help the present situation. It is a critically needed conversation that needs to be happening publically and endlessly. Prevention is the issue. Preventing children's suffering is the goal.

I cared for children in foster care, it is heart-wrenching. It formed my need to speak out about families having too many children and having unwanted children.

Ask workers in welfare offices if they want public conversation about it.

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Posted by BDE on 09/06/2018 at 9:16 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Whether you think people should have so many kids or none at all is an opinion best left to yourself as it's not going to help anyone's current situation. Support systems can fall through in an instant. What's more important here is that we act like good humans and just help others in need, period.

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Posted by Heather Jacob on 09/06/2018 at 8:56 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Laura, you are mistaking judgment for opinion.

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Posted by BDE on 09/06/2018 at 2:57 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

A little aggression to get rid, Sue Palmer?

Like it or not, I think having 6 kids is irresponsible.

Pretty high and mighty of you to go off on me when you are pointing as many fingers at me as you accuse me of pointing. Seems you can't accept an opinion other than your own.

I did not go off you on you or anyone else. I have an opinion seems you have a problem with that. Character? Ha.

Seems to me you have been quite nasty on this post.

LOL - who asked for you opinion?

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Posted by BDE on 09/06/2018 at 2:54 AM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Sometimes the boat we start in and the boat we end up in can be very different. The important thing is that we all look out for each other. We shouldnt presume to understand how anyone came to be in the boat they care currently maneuvering. Burlington is lucky to have you, Laura!

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Posted by Julie Connally on 09/05/2018 at 6:19 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Sometimes people start off in one boat and end up in a completely different one, with their children. Its not up to us to judge them or assume we know their lives and situations.
Laura, you are a star! Burlington is so lucky to have you!

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Posted by Julie Connally on 09/05/2018 at 6:15 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

100% agree with Laura. You have no idea the circumstances this family has been through. To sit in judgement that they have too many children? You have no idea their lives, their choices, any of it. They find themselves in need of help and you have any right to chime in? You know nothing about these people. The message of this article is community and helping your neighbors. I'm sure, BDE, it feels easy to judge someone on their worst day. Of course, you attacking and judging this family (on what I assume is not your worst day) doesn't really reflect well on your character, so it's pretty hard not to judge you. No one asked for your two cents. So take your judgement and go think about what you spent today doing. Attacking a struggling family and if you know their lives or the fix. Go help an actual person and leave your judgement at home.

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Posted by Sue Palmer on 09/05/2018 at 5:59 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

I guess I was being naive when I hoped that the message of this piece would be that we all need to support each other, not judge each other for how many kids one has and your perception of what resources they have. Please don't use this profile of my work as an opportunity to make statements about personal responsibility. The truth is that you can have all the resources in the world when you have kids and then lose everything in a crisis. That's why knowing each other is so important. You need to see people as the complex, beautiful messes we all are and not make a judgement based on someone's worst day.

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Posted by Laura Hale on 09/05/2018 at 5:27 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

We falsely believe that just because we can have children that we have the right to have them. If we can't financially take care of them, we do not have the right to bring them into this world to suffer.

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Posted by BDE on 09/05/2018 at 5:07 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Why make the decision to have many children, knowing that you cannot support them?

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Posted by Susan Hoyt on 09/05/2018 at 4:57 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Laura, I don't disagree with anything you say. So no need to preach about livable wage or affordable housing. I worked 35 years in social services - with poor, battered women and minority families. Volunteered for years as well.

$15, 20 or even $25 an hour cannot support 4,5 or 6+ kids.

There needs to be personal responsibility around having kids. It is very troubling that women whom cannot afford so many children, have them. I am not saying shouldn't have any. I am saying shouldn't have so many. The children suffer.

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Posted by BDE on 09/05/2018 at 4:48 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Hey @BDE - Laura Hale here, and thanks for the kind words. Fortunately I am surrounded by many people who love and support me, so all the care is taken care of! And the people I know who have less resources and are parents are pretty amazing at it, and are raising kids who are kind, compassionate, and wonderful members of the community. If we really want to turn it around, and support all folks who are struggling (which is sadly a very large percentage of Vermonters), we need to have affordable housing and jobs that offer a liveable wage. And supportive communities who rally around people when crises hit. Resiliency and the ability to live lives that aren't a daily struggle to make ends meet require a whole lot of people coming together and being there for each other, especially when it's not easy or convenient. To put it simply, we need to care about our neighbors as much as we care about ourselves and then a whole lot of decisions about resources become easier and more equitable.

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Posted by Laura Hale on 09/05/2018 at 3:40 PM

Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End

Incredible person. Sounds like she needs some taking care of.

It is majorly mindboggling that there are people like Hale who cares so much about people. And then read about those who seem to care nothing about suffering people. Instead giving their money to politics. Where is their humanity?

It disturbs me to no end that people most unable to care for themselves have too many children. How many families in the ONE have more than two children?

Sorry but, it is just wrong to bring children into the world to suffer poverty. How can that be turned-around?

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Posted by BDE on 09/05/2018 at 3:23 PM

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