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Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

@cwinklem, a Wikipedia search reveals that Ting has been a Telecom operator since 2012, starting off as a Virtual Network Operator (in essence, they offer their own cell services but piggy back off of an established network - currently Sprint & T-Mobile). They do not have to maintain physical lines, per a traditional Telecom company, but much of the same lessons learned there would apply to a more t.

Ting entered the traditional teleco space in late 2014, operating a fiber network similar to BT's. If you wanted to only qualify this line of business as a "telecom business," that would be more like 3 years. I'd argue it's 5, per their cell service, but it could be interpreted either way.

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Posted by relativevelocity on 11/02/2017 at 2:18 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

deepinvt : No conspiracy: read the article... Karen Paul : "Rather than fly, Paul drove from Burlington and said she'd pay all her own expenses."

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Posted by Dave Gibson on 11/02/2017 at 2:14 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

@1recordhit that is correct for their cellular service, not for their Fiber networks in cities such as Charlottesville. Burlington Telecom is, of course, the latter.

In regards to fiber rates, turns out this is easy to check. Ting offers a starter 5mbps package for $19/month. Burlington Telecom's identical service is $40. Ting's gigabit is $89/month, slightly more than BT's at $85. This doesn't factor in things like modems, installation, taxes, etc for either service.

Your comment, unfortunately, does not seems to be based in fact.

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Posted by relativevelocity on 11/02/2017 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

KBTL Ting Hail Mary?
God is in the details, but, in essence:
Ting backs KBTL.
KBTL succeeds, Ting goes back to Toronto, says, Youre welcome.
KBTL fails, BT reverts to Ting.

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Posted by gomi on 11/02/2017 at 1:39 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

Avoid Tucows at all cost. Ting? Ting Internet?

Tucows doesn't actually OWN the lines for Ting. They are just leasing the lines. Look up "Ting MVNO" in Google and you'll see that they don't OWN the networks. They are basically piggybacking off the large carriers.

Ting Internet is another problem. Take a look at some of their rates for their established locations. Lower tier Internet is at an astronomical cost. This reminds me of what AOL was charging for dial-up. There is absolutely no reason why a "service provider" is allowed to charge these rates with a competitive landscape.

Then there is the fact that a foreign provider is controlling your data. Do you really want another country having access to what you do in the US?

Tell your city council to VOTE NO!

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Posted by 1recordhit on 11/02/2017 at 1:16 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

Nate Awrich, thank you for correcting/educating me!

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Posted by Scott Pavek on 11/02/2017 at 10:41 AM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

Why is KBTL getting a loan from Maine fiber and not a bank? The loan is guaranteed to give Maine fiber a 4 million dollar return no matter when the loan is paid off.

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Posted by btuser on 11/02/2017 at 9:54 AM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

Scott Pavek - Tucows does not host Stormfront and never has. If you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Noss explain that Tucows is a domain registrar, and all it does is register the URL. It doesn't have the right to deny registration.

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Posted by Nate Awrich on 11/02/2017 at 9:31 AM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

I have TING cell service. I save about half of what I paid with sprint for 5 phones. You call TING customer service and a LIVE person ALWAYS answers the phone. Michael Schirmer, South Hero Vermont.

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Posted by Michael Schirmer on 11/02/2017 at 7:27 AM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

So Karen Paul took trip to Toronto on BT dime...and then declared conflict of interest?
Something stinks.

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Posted by deepinvt on 11/01/2017 at 8:31 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

Karen Paul went to Toronto on BT's dime...and then declared a conflict of interest? Something stinks.

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Posted by deepinvt on 11/01/2017 at 8:17 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

@cwinklem,
So Ting has been in the telecom business for two years. Interesting.

That is like a lifetime compared to KBTL!

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Posted by BradD on 11/01/2017 at 1:01 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

So Ting has been in the telecom business for two years. Interesting.

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Posted by cwinklem on 11/01/2017 at 12:44 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

Does it really matter to the story that they were served coffee in company mugs? Maybe it does!
It sounds to me like this is an environmentally friendly company. Rather then using styrofoam that is thrown away they are saving the environment by using company mugs!
Just another good reason to go Ting!

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Posted by BradD on 11/01/2017 at 12:24 PM

Re: “Toronto-Based Company Gets Personal in Bid to Buy Burlington Telecom

Control + F for 'Stomfront.' Really, no comment, no update? Is Tucows still hosting Stomfront or not?

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Posted by Scott Pavek on 11/01/2017 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Backpedaling: Burlington Residents Challenge Plans for More Bike Lanes

Biking commuters quadruple according to statistics from a city survey included in the 233-page master plan? I don't believe that for one minute. I would question any "study" from the corrupt Burlington leadership - My experience is that they are slanted to get a certain result or are "apple vs. orange" results that should not be compared - Only the Press and Local Motion members believe those studies. Everyone else is on to them.

Seven Days usually only tells one side of the story as I witnessed during the so-called N. Ave. Pilot which was never a pilot at all. "He's done his best to be transparent, " referring to Chapin Spencer who repeatedly lied throughout the North Ave. project. Giving the press unscientific pie charts - letting them run off and report results that he KNEW were untrue. Also ADMITTING that he "may have counted each biker four times" when challenged on his results on increased biking on the Ave. The only thing he's done his best at is deception and manipulation. You can go to those meetings all you want - if you don't agree with Local Motion you WILL NOT be heard and your opinion will not be considered. The council has given Chapin/ Local Motion free reign to run this city even though it is a complete conflict of interest for him to do so and would be ILLEGAL anywhere else but Burlington. WAKE UP Vermonters - Stop voting in people from out of state who only have outside interests for our city. We need to start voting in Vermonters or out-of-stater's who LIKE Vermont and don't want to change it to wherever they came from - strictly agenda driven representatives. The only people in Burlington who get representation are Local Motion members and that's it!

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Posted by Biker on 08/08/2017 at 11:23 AM

Re: “New Winooski City Manager Jessie Baker Aims to Nurture a Layered, Dynamic Burg

Winooski schools are underrated. The test scores are lower because everyone has to take the standardized tests, including all the immigrant refugees, even if they have proverbially just gotten off the boat and lack the English language facility. But plenty of the immigrant refugee families have the raw intelligence and strong commitment to learning.

As for the fighter jets, the F-16s were really not a problem until around 2004 or 2005 when they increased the weight & reconfigured the planes to put the fuel tanks on the outside, necessitating take-offs at full after-burner. The noise went up dramatically at that point. Used to work out at the Woolen Mill Health Club and the change with the F-16's was immediately noticeable.

As the Air Force has acknowledged in their Environmental Impact Statement, the F-35 is about 4 times louder than the F-16, so, yes, this is going to really hurt Winooski and all the other impacted areas. Given the population density, this is why the Air Force rated Vermont as the least environmentally favorable location for basing the F-35. But as Bryan Bender reported in the Boston Globe, Patrick Leahy did his back room deals and pressure to force it here against their wishes and the rest is history. Patrick Leahy, Bernie Sanders, Peter Shumlin, etc. own that one. Most people I know love the convenience of Winooski but are trepidatious about making a long-term commitment to the community because of the fighter jets.

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Posted by Chris in S. Burlington on 08/05/2017 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Backpedaling: Burlington Residents Challenge Plans for More Bike Lanes

We own a building on N. Union. The city has allowed multi-tenant buildings with associated parking on N. Union - landlords did not create this arrangement. This is an interdependent system that has been in place since before most of you were born. This doesn't make it wrong or right. As we all can agree, unfortunately, most people drive cars and need a place to park.

Our argument against this plan is that within a month, (and unknown to the property owners before a June 30 letter was sent out) the DPW is removing parking in a densely populated area that will cause the equilibrium of the system to be significantly impacted. Transportation in the city is like a three-legged stool and with this decision they are kicking out one of the legs without any effort to ameliorate the effects. I realize that they have found scattered parking spots in the area, but this doesn't address the reality of the parking pressure that we are dealing with on N. Union. If the DPW had looked at each of the three legs - walking, biking & parking there could have been creative options considered that would have maintained parking and provided safe infrastructure for biking and walking. Did the DPW or anyone railing against us offer solutions to begin relieving parking pressure in this area? How do we keep employees and visitors from parking on N. Union instead of downtown where they have to pay? How about satellite parking for those students in the area who don't use their cars often? Or, 24-hour parking limits in the area to eliminate long term on street parking?

Finally, the July 19 DPW Commission final vote was 4-3. It was not an overwhelming vote of confidence for this plan.

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Posted by lalavt on 08/05/2017 at 10:58 AM

Re: “Backpedaling: Burlington Residents Challenge Plans for More Bike Lanes

Jane: No Dave Hartnett does not own a gas station. No conflict of interest here

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Posted by marianne1 on 08/05/2017 at 7:35 AM

Re: “Backpedaling: Burlington Residents Challenge Plans for More Bike Lanes

phuzzie: you assumed that those who do not ride in the winter have never tried it. Interpretation: I like it and if you try it you will like it to. Because everyone should be like me.

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Posted by marianne1 on 08/05/2017 at 7:31 AM

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