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Re: “After Burlington College's Collapse, More Questions Than Answers

This is a good thing: "None of the institutions that have signed up to accept students offer majors in transpersonal psychology." In the long run, a BA in pseudoscience would've been a bigger setback than changing majors, regardless of how far they were along.

Posted by Angela Chase on 05/17/2017 at 3:47 AM

Re: “As UVM's President Hits Five Years, Trustees Ask If He's Made the Grade

"The outcome will help determine how much of a raise Sullivan, who earns $437,635 annually, receives." . How much of a raise ? Wow . Good gig .!

Posted by Rich ard on 05/12/2017 at 5:33 PM

Re: “Let's Grow Kids' 'Dream Team' Lobbies for Early Education Dollars

That's a lot of money coming from out-of-state to push this issue. Why don't these out-of-state foundations let Vermont residents be the ones to decide how best to spend their taxes and figure out child-care?

I am skeptical only because, as a parent of a pre-schooler, I have watched the last few years as the State Legislature passed former Representative Sarah Buxton's unfunded Universal Child Care legislation that put hundreds of pages of new regulations on child cares and forced dozens of smaller, well-run child cares out of business, forcing many parents to scramble. Also, the child cares that remained in business had to raise rates in order to comply with the new regulations. The kicker is Mx. Buxton does not even have any children of her own and thus was not living the real world consequences of her legislation.

Lots of money came in from out-of-state also to push Shumlin's disastrous health care legislation that ended up flushing $200 million plus of hard-earned tax dollars down the drain. Many of us would have been happy to just keep that money and apply it directly to our own health care bills. Thankfully Representative Myers seems to have a realistic take on this.

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Posted by Chris in S. Burlington on 04/28/2017 at 6:15 PM

Re: “Let's Grow Kids' 'Dream Team' Lobbies for Early Education Dollars

An important part of the conversation that was lightly touched upon is the incredibly low wages and salaries for early ed teachers - a serious problem for a field that now requires college degrees and is 98% female - and I really hope that as these conversations continue, we focus on the two-pronged issue of high cost for parents AND low wages for teachers.

For early ed teachers interested in chatting with other professionals, look up 'Burlington Early Ed Community' on Facebook. Thanks!

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Posted by cwinklem on 04/26/2017 at 1:40 PM

Re: “Let's Grow Kids' 'Dream Team' Lobbies for Early Education Dollars

I am a single working parent in Vermont. I receive a 65% subsidy to assist in paying for childcare for my 3 year old and I still pay just over $130 a week for her to attend a 5 STAR (high quality) program in central Vermont! I literally choose every month between paying her childcare bill or buying groceries, and I have a good, full-time job.
Vermont NEEDS to do something about the childcare crisis, this has already been going on for too long. I got involved with Let's Grow Kids through my current employer, I have attended their advocacy training's and found it to be a HUGE help. If Representatives are finding them to be "over the top" or feeling "bombarded" then I say, "more power to them!", that is how they should be feeling. Imagine being one of the THOUSANDS of Vermont families, like me, choosing between paying for daycare or eating, or choosing between paying for daycare or just leaving the job market, and getting on public assistance!
Putting money into early education and care NOW is important for an array of reasons at every point of the spectrum, but for those of us living in this situation everyday, the important reason to o this is that maybe in a few years we wouldn't have to choose between paying for childcare or eating.

16 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Faye Longo on 04/26/2017 at 12:55 PM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

The sad sad Joke is on the people who are viciously attacking those of us who see no reason to change the Rebel nickname. Hey people Josiah Leach who terrorized the South Burlington school system and the community all of last week, pretended to be a Rebel sympathizer to blacken the Rebel Alliance. It could have been possible that it was one of Rebels but thank God it was the other side who used a disturbed person to even put people's name on the "kill list". And yet MR Leach says he meant no harm! How many disturbed people have killed students and teachers in our schools all over the nation, considering the degree of threats this young man should be in custody for a long time till they figure out what to do to help him.
Please don't carry political correctness touch levels to put the community in the hands of a dangerous individual.

9 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by Saffron on 04/25/2017 at 11:58 AM

Re: “Sign of the Times: Deaf Vermonters Seek Better Options for Services and Schooling

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Posted by Jatara Page on 04/25/2017 at 11:01 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

"Hey Kiya Batmanglidj, Corey Mansfield, Dan Emmons and the rest of the RA; one of your ilk is threatening to shoot up the SB high school. You all proud of how your 'populist revolt" is going?"

Wrong! Wrong, wrong, wrong! Are you -- and all the rest of the commenters on here who blamed the anti-name-changers for being behind the violent threats -- going to apologize now?

6 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by knowyourassumptions on 04/23/2017 at 4:13 PM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

Brattleboro's solution seems best--revamp the logo and reclaim the name. If the RA can produce a logo that works on all levels to displace any Civil War/racist symbolism, great. But the new images have to be embraced by those who would fly them to trump any who might drag the past into the present. If no one can think of anything, perhaps the opposition is right. Let's be honest; when people think of Revolutionary War soldiers the word "rebel" does not come to mind--they're revolutionaries. The RA challenge is not to oppose, but to lead with solutions.

CVU missed a great opportunity to reclaim the Crusader, making it one seeking justice, equality and the like while dropping the knight image. I, for one, look forward to a SB student body honoring Princess Leia with all wearing their hair in buns.

2 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Tom Darling on 04/23/2017 at 8:53 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

Bunch of bored, stay at home moms and glory days nostalgic dads. Rebel Alliance is an embarrassment. Trashing teachers and admin, voting down the budget, and slandering any opposition with personal, petty insults. SBHS is the best high school in VT and these mopes want to gut it top to bottom ... all for some silly mascot. I suggest they travel a bit outside their homogenous VT echo chamber ... or go visit Kiya, their gun-toting, tough guy leader, who doesn't even live in Vermont. A little perspective would go a long way with that group.

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Posted by Kevin Lamper on 04/21/2017 at 11:06 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

Hey Kiya Batmanglidj, Corey Mansfield, Dan Emmons and the rest of the RA; one of your ilk is threatening to shoot up the SB high school. You all proud of how your 'populist revolt" is going?

Let's be clear, the only rebel in this matter is Isaiah. Godspeed to him who has shown character and bravery.

15 likes, 18 dislikes
Posted by Antiquarian on 04/20/2017 at 6:52 PM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

People often claim that there were no racists in the SB schools when they chose Confederate symbols for the new high school. However, intent is not needed for racism to rear its head. Racism has long been in the very air we breathe but is invisible to those who dont feel its sting.
At the same time South Burlington High School was choosing an identity, hotels in the area had an unwritten agreement to take no blacks. Mayfair Park residents had a written covenant to not sell their homes to people of color. In 1965, Governor Hoff proposed a bill to prohibit racial discrimination in housing sales and rentals. It failed. The South Burlington students and teachers were surrounded by racism but they could not see it because they and their families could rent at any hotel, buy a home anywhere in the city, and read the history of their people everyday in school.
When they chose the Rebel name, Confederate flag and mascot, they unthinkingly chose symbols that represented the nations enemies, who started a war that killed hundreds of thousands to keep people enslaved and, later, foisted a new reign of terror on blacks who dared to fight for a better life. While the South Burlington students were choosing the Confederate flag as their symbol, people of color who dared to register to vote were being tortured, lynched, and burned in the South under that same hateful banner. It is now a part of the high school institution and vey hard to eradicate. To choose such symbols was institutional racism, pure and simple. Intent is not needed for racism to occur. Even if it is not in your heart, it is in the air and a part of all our institutions. We must work to eliminate it.

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Posted by eguy on 04/20/2017 at 3:25 PM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

I moved to Vermont a few years ago after being born and raised in Alabama. The first time I learned that SBHS had the Rebels as a mascot, I was shocked. In the south, "Rebels" is universally understood to be a pro-Confederacy statement. In my hometown, the high school that uses "rebels" has a parking lot full of confederate flag license plate frames and stickers and such in the student parking lot. I thought it must mean something else here in New England, since surely Vermonters, whose ancestors fought on the other side of what Southern kids learn to call "the war of northern aggression," wouldn't be guilty of pro-Confederate statements. The yearbook pictures and other artifacts showing Confederate flags as part of the "rebel" persona would seem to indicate it does not have a definite alternate meaning here, at least not one I've seen articulated. I'm not saying that the name absolutely should be changed--as I am neither a taxpayer nor parent in SB, I don't think it's my place to have a strong opinion on that--but it does have a connotation that is very clear to people with outsider perspectives.

25 likes, 15 dislikes
Posted by Holly on 04/20/2017 at 3:08 PM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

Yesterday, April 19, was the anniversary of the Shot Heard Round the World,the first shots fired in the American revolution against the British sovereignty over the colonies. Revolution is synonymous with rebellion, which of course is conducted by rebels. It is a perfectly good word and numerous positive connotations. The controversy is entirely manufactured.

The school board's virtue signaling tells the students that they must never be offended, and if they are, everyone must stop it. The world revolves around them and their perceived injuries, regardless of the impact on others. This is how we get the recent incidents at Middlebury, Berkeley, and other institutions of higher learning.

My thoughts turn to the young men and women, not much older than these students (and many of the minutemen "rebels" were younger) who in the past and the present have put their lives at risk to defend free speech among other freedoms. Being shot at, having shrapnel explode right next to you, and watching your buddies die is truly offensive. These young people have no perspective, and the school board is not helping them get it.

21 likes, 24 dislikes
Posted by Shel on 04/20/2017 at 10:25 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

Yes the name had to go. But why would they vote to get rid of a name without having a new name to market like crazy and get people to start using it? Currently they are the South Burlington No-Names.

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Posted by Tom A. on 04/20/2017 at 10:07 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

Maybe "Rebels" wasn't about the Confederacy, but South Burlingtonites then adopted a Southern colonel mascot and the Confederate battle flag and made it about the Confederacy.
Plenty of colleges were "Redmen" simply because they wore red uniforms (Carthage, St. John's, RMC-Canada, UMass, Ripon). Some later adopted mascots that made the name all about Indians, and thus were complicit in the criticism aimed at them.
Glenn Arthur Pierce, author of Naming Rites: A Biographical History of North American Team Names

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Posted by Glenn Arthur Pierce on 04/20/2017 at 9:19 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

You really don't see the connection to the Confederacy? Part of Burlington seceded just like the South attempted and names the new city South Burlington even though most of the new city isn't even south of Burlington and then takes on the rebel name. It most certainly mimics the Confederacy.

Now, slavery did not play a part in South Burlington seceding from Burlington and I'd bet the whole south/rebel thing was more of an FU to Burlington than anything steeped in racism. I'm of the ilk the name is more stupid than racist but one can't deny people are moving away from the confederate flag, the Confederacy, and the racism associated with it.

Maybe the rebel name isn't directly racist but maybe it is also time to rethink, at very least, the division the name creates within the community. I'm sure there is a name that embraces the independence of South Burlington that doesn't necessarily extend its middle finger quite so largely.

23 likes, 20 dislikes
Posted by Mark Lade on 04/20/2017 at 7:18 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

@Mitch Kaplan, do we know who is behind the threats causing the lockdown at South Burlington schools? I.e., is there some connection to the issue discussed in this article? WCAX reporting earlier did not indicate that they had determined the person or persons behind it but not sure what the latest info. is.

The out-of-state residents profiled are graduates of South Burlington and former community members so it does appear they would have a legitimate interest and right to share their opinion as alumni/alumnae. Just other voices among the many making various legitimate points.

23 likes, 13 dislikes
Posted by Chris in S. Burlington on 04/20/2017 at 2:07 AM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

I can't believe that the school is more worried about the name than actually making sure everything else is taken care of. I know a great idea, let's leave the asbestos alone and spend that money on new Jerseys and remove the Rebel name.

I promise you this, no matter what name is chosen, it doesn't erase history, if the school board did its job and rebrand like the promised they would, we wouldn't have this mess to begin with, and taxes could continue to go up like they have been.

21 likes, 19 dislikes
Posted by Mike Thomas on 04/19/2017 at 9:37 PM

Re: “'Rebels' Yell: Protests Build Over South Burlington's Mascot Change

It shouldn't surprise the PC police that honest, decent, non-racist citizens object to being called racist. People see what they want to see, and the race hustlers take full advantage of those who are not comfortable objecting to political correctness run amok. I attended SBHS and never heard a single reference to the Confederacy. This whole mess is about one or two people getting everyone agitated for nothing. Next they'll be demanding the city change its name because of the word "South" in it.

36 likes, 45 dislikes
Posted by Will R on 04/19/2017 at 8:35 PM

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