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Re: “Cat’s Caucus: The Vermont Legislature in Vonnegut Land

Hi John, another cake? This one by Jane Kitchel. Didn't Senator White get in on the competition? You must be becoming an expert on cake evaluation by now John. The Vermont legislature is cake land and not much else.

Posted by Walter Moses on 05/24/2019 at 12:04 PM

Re: “Cat’s Caucus: The Vermont Legislature in Vonnegut Land

You missed a critical piece of the puzzle, the press. Because of everything you described above in your article, many of us outside of Montpelier depend on the press to shine a spot light on what is truly going on in the Statehouse. Historically, this column has not done a great job of doing that. This column and this papers unwillingness to call out Tim Ashe when it is deserved is part of the problem. This article is a small step in the right direction. Thanks.

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Posted by Bob Frazier on 05/23/2019 at 9:29 AM

Re: “Cat’s Caucus: The Vermont Legislature in Vonnegut Land

Incomprehensible literary analogies aside, totally agree.

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Posted by stellaquarta on 05/22/2019 at 12:58 PM

Re: “Cat’s Caucus: The Vermont Legislature in Vonnegut Land

Nailed it.

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Posted by Job Tate 1 on 05/22/2019 at 12:04 PM

Re: “Playing It Safe: 2019 Legislature Poised to Underwhelm

The idea that a watered-down family leave or mimimum wage bill is a victory for Dems is backwards. It's a victory for conservatives who defeated two good bills that have huge citizen support.
This was not underwhelming- it was a disaster. This is the kind of weakness that resulted in people voting for Trump.
Wake up!

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Posted by David Schoales 1 on 05/15/2019 at 7:25 PM

Re: “Playing It Safe: 2019 Legislature Poised to Underwhelm

You get what you vote for.

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Posted by doom on 05/15/2019 at 4:46 PM

Re: “Playing It Safe: 2019 Legislature Poised to Underwhelm

The D/P majorities are paralyzed and useless, preferring to debate silly and absolutely meaningless bills and unable to get the work done that voters elected them to do. The blame for this do-nothing session lies squarely on the shoulders of Ashe and Johnson. It was up to leadership to make sure things got done and they've been an epic failure. Perhaps its time to dump the human rubbish that we keep electing and try some fresh faces. We certainly need new leadership.

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Posted by Roy on 05/15/2019 at 3:06 PM

Re: “Playing It Safe: 2019 Legislature Poised to Underwhelm

There is a danger in passing legislation just to say we did something. Vermont Health Connect and Act 46 are prime examples. Perhaps in a taoist sort of way the legislature might be doing its best work by doing nothing this year.

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Posted by John Freitag on 05/15/2019 at 1:58 PM

Re: “Playing It Safe: 2019 Legislature Poised to Underwhelm

Just one more article where John Walters gives Senate President Tim Ashe a bye on legislative disfuntion. Ashe doesnt get the tough questions or appropriate credit for this do nothing session.

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Posted by Bob Frazier on 05/15/2019 at 12:52 PM

Re: “Tough Guy: Does Public Safety Commissioner Tom Anderson Speak for Phil Scott?

..."but at the end of the day we're just trying to keep people safe in Vermont."

The common good of a collective -- a race, a class, a state -- was the claim and justification of every tyranny ever established over men. Every major horror of history was committed in the name of an altruistic motive. Has any act of selfishness ever equaled the carnage perpetrated by disciples of altruism? Does the fault lie in men's hypocrisy or in the nature of the principle? The most dreadful butchers were the most sincere. They believed in the perfect society reached through the guillotine and the firing squad. Nobody questioned their right to murder since they were murdering for an altruistic purpose. It was accepted that man must be sacrificed for other men. Actors change, but the course of the tragedy remains the same. A humanitarian who starts with the tragedy remains the same. A humanitarian who starts with the declarations of love for mankind and ends with a sea of blood. It goes on and will go on so long as men believe that an action is good if it is unselfish. That permits the altruist to act and forces his victims to bear it. The leaders of collectivist movements ask nothing of themselves. But observe the results. - Ayn Rand

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Posted by FreedomToThink on 05/08/2019 at 12:16 PM

Re: “Cannabis — or Can’t? With Time Running Short, House Struggles With Full Legalization

"Cannabis is not, and has never been, an addictive drug. It is not, and has never been, a gateway drug."

Marijuana is not, and has never been, harmless to the teen brain. Just because you get all your news from High Times doesn't mean it's true.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei…

https://www.google.com/search?ei=PWDLXJDaP…

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Posted by knowyourassumptions on 05/02/2019 at 5:27 PM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

Maybe the legislature paused & instituted their own waiting period due to concerns of committing criminal offenses against the people of Vermont. Offenses for which they would be charged and held accountable. Fraud under the commission of your oath of office is a career ending move at minimum. Criminal trespass on the rights of the people, acting under color of law, along with fraud, may very well find some of these would-be dictators & their cohorts populating a prison cell for a couple decades.

A common law Grand Jury of the People, outside any influence from the State Corporation inJustice system, separate from any so called public officials, can & will investigate charges bought against all public servants and that Grand Jurys findings will be enforced, by a militia of the people if need be.

The people stand above their government & their public servants at all times. Any further attempts to usurp our unalienable rights, will not be tolerated.

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Posted by FreedomToThink on 05/02/2019 at 3:23 PM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

Very telling of SevenDays' bias on this subject that they leave the condescending personal insult's of Michael Lannen for all to see while anything of the like from the pro 2nd amendment crowd would be immediately censored.

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Posted by FreedomToThink on 05/02/2019 at 3:20 PM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

John Williams is wrong. The firearm is not illegal. The magazine would be if purchased after the law was passed, but is perfectly legal if it was possessed prior to that. But, as magazines have no serial numbers, kind of a tough one to prove...

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Posted by Jaden Kestrel on 05/02/2019 at 9:58 AM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

Fun fact: the firearm in this photo is illegal under current Vermont law.

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Posted by John William on 05/02/2019 at 9:34 AM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

Why not?
Because it does nothing to accomplish the stated goal, at the expense of tangible and predictable downsides. Those downsides already happened in places waiting periods exist.
Foreseeable consequences are not unintended.

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Posted by doom on 05/02/2019 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

why not?

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Posted by The Oracle on 05/02/2019 at 8:48 AM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

It is hilarious to watch the gun nuts freaking out about having to wait 1 day to add another gun to their collection ..... try putting a waiting period on abortion and decide if watching those nuts are hilarious

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Posted by Mickey Nowak on 05/01/2019 at 9:11 PM

Re: “Wait for It: Will Vermont Enact a Gun Waiting Period?

This purpose of this bill is to theoretically address impulsive negative acts with a firearm, principally suicide and murder.

94% of suicide attempts in 2016 were not done with a firearm. Those attempts that were done with a firearm were predominantly done with a firearm that was already owned. It is actually rare that a person goes out to a store, buys a gun, then takes it home and kills themselves.

It is now known that the tragic event in Essex spanned at least 40 hours, and included something like a 36-hour countdown to when the firearm was bought. A 24-hour waiting period would have been useless. Waiting another 8 hours and 1 minute defeats a 48-hour waiting period.

Pick an arbitrary time-period and a determined person will just plan around it.

Show me a study where a Waiting Period has the appearance of saving lives, and I'll show you one from an unbiased source that says otherwise.

All suicide is a tragedy. The fact is however that there are Vermonters in jeopardy as there were 3,380 Relief From Abuse filings in 2018, and that people have a Right to defend themselves. The fact is that there were over 41,000 firearm transactions done in Vermont last year - with only one to a person who was intent on immediately killing themselves.

So: How do we balance the right of someone who suddenly feels under threat and wants to obtain the means for their defense, versus a person who is intent on ending their life and is willing to act as if nothing is wrong?

How tragic will it be when a known victim is killed by a known aggressor while the victim was in a waiting period?

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Posted by Chris Bradley on 05/01/2019 at 6:15 PM

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