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Re: “Leahy, Sanders Condemn Senate Obamacare Repeal Vote

Ok folks the response by both of these Senators is proof they are not fit to serve. Today's vote was to debate a new plan not pass a "disastrous" plan. Instead of looking at a chance to work out a plan that is acceptable to both sides all the bald bums can do is go on the attack about how the plan is going to lead to the extinction of mankind. How can a plan that has not been worked out yet kill anyone? This kind of thinking is not good for any American rich or poor, black or white, Democrat or Republican. It's time to take back our freedom by voting incompetent leaders like Leahy and Sanders out.#TIMETOVOTETHEBALDGUYSOUT!!!

1 like, 2 dislikes
Posted by citizen on 07/25/2017 at 8:38 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

It's possible Craig was just trying to see if he could enact a modern, real version of "The Producers"

No one does that many stupid things and WANTS the business to succeed.

5 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by galaxy56 on 07/25/2017 at 7:21 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

The Oracle, if we are going to point fingers, with Craig McGaughan. Literally nothing Craig did helped it stay open.

If anyone is considering opening an LGBT space, might I suggest you learn from Craig's mistakes and:

* DON"T be transphobic
* DON"T name the space a trans slur
* DON'T use your Facebook page to publicly attack individual community members
* DON'T shun the community you are economically dependent on and tell them to f***k off
* DON'T threaten them individually on public forums when they voice opinions you don't like
* DON'T use your business' platform as a bully pullpit
* DON'T ask the same community that you keep offending to not only come to your bar but to DONATE to keep it open - we all know a good business model runs on donations
* DON'T be an a**hole to everyone and anyone you come in contact with for the fun of it

Some of this could be applied more generally than just LGBT spaces. Craig really f***ed up.

7 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by foolsdrool on 07/25/2017 at 6:59 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

Jordan Adams' column about it certainly didn't help it stay open: https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/soundb…

1 like, 4 dislikes
Posted by The Oracle on 07/25/2017 at 6:31 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

Folks fighting against what they believe to be hurtful and unjust will always be perceived as "militant" by those who are not oppressed in the same way or by those who benefit from their oppression. There is no LGBT without the T. If trans folks felt hurt by the name it is no one else's role to tell them that they are not or should not be hurt by it. None of us are free until we are all free. Stop name calling and start supporting trans folks who need it most.

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Posted by embeef2017 on 07/25/2017 at 5:45 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

Roy: I agree with you 100%.

That being said, it was an unfortunate, totally manufactured and petty issue put forth by a group of angry, militant transsexuals hopped up on hormones and ginned up outrage who are continually looking for a reason to be offended and play the victim.

It is truly sick to be so self-absorbed and vengeful. Circumstances do not make the person, they expose the person. As someone I once knew used to say about mean-spirited people - thank god I am not him/her.

10 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by marianne1 on 07/25/2017 at 5:24 PM

Re: “Teen Charged in South Burlington Racist Graffiti Case

I am "colored" lol - but aren't we all? Besides the point, I am far from poor though, so it seems I can relate 50% of the time.

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Posted by Don Johnson on 07/25/2017 at 3:57 PM

Re: “Teen Charged in South Burlington Racist Graffiti Case

@Don Johnson nice white savior complex dude. Maybe you should let POC speak for themselves.

Posted by ReneBushey on 07/25/2017 at 3:21 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

The Pride Center and a few social justice warriors, ever on the look-out for even the slightest hint of offense, got what they wanted. They managed through their never-ending outrage to get our only gay bar in years closed down. I wonder if the so-called "Pride" Center is proud of the good day's work they have done. But remember, this "Pride" Center: I am gay, and you do not speak for me, and I will never again support you in word or donation. Ever.

30 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by Leonard Bast on 07/25/2017 at 2:47 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

EVERYONE in this fiasco is to blame for the closing

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Posted by Sean Moran 1 on 07/25/2017 at 2:43 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

Craig was his own worst enemy, playing into the drama on Facebook, etc. Even those who supported him in the argument got tired of the drama.

That being said, it was an unfortunate, totally manufactured and petty issue put forth by a group of angry, militant transexuals hopped up on hormones and ginned up outrage who are continually looking for a reason to be offended and play the victim. Well, congratulations to them. They, with the help of the Pride Center, got what they wanted, they closed him down. I'm sure that they must be proud of themselves.

28 likes, 18 dislikes
Posted by Roy on 07/25/2017 at 1:38 PM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

It was a cute, funny and memorable name. This wasn't the headquarters for extremist Christians or homophobes, context matters and it is okay to have a sense of humor and flip slurs into a joke. I love my gay friends for many reasons, having a well-developed sense of humor to fight back against the close-minded hate has worked just brilliantly and advanced the cause of civil rights for all.

So now the political correctness police have won, and a respected businessperson has lost. But who really has lost? All of us, but the political correct police can huddle over their righteous indignation and cheer their victory over the solitude of an empty space formerly filled with laughter and community.

35 likes, 28 dislikes
Posted by Penelope on 07/25/2017 at 8:46 AM

Re: “Trump Admin Axes Millions in Funding for Vermont Nonprofit

If that's your opinion, then you're sadly mistaken. Teen pregnancy, abortion and live births are at historic lows. If Planned Parenthood and other programs that prevent teen pregnancy -- programs that btw don't take a single approach but many approaches -- somehow hurt young people, why would this be the case? Get your facts straight. Teens aren't having more sex, or having sex earlier, than they were 20 years ago. These programs aren't bad for kids, they're GOOD for kids, and for society. Having kids too early is a sure route to poverty for mother and child. Preventing it is in everyone's best interest.

13 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by sayitstraight on 07/25/2017 at 8:05 AM

Re: “Winooski Gay Bar Once Known as Mister Sister Has Closed

This is a sad saga. How hard was it to say "Oh my goodness, I had no idea that was a slur in the trans community. Can you help me think of a new name?" Even if you think the point the critics are making is dumb, it's a good business decision not to unnecessarily offend your customer base.

38 likes, 18 dislikes
Posted by stellaquarta on 07/25/2017 at 7:33 AM

Re: “South Burlington School District Fights Suit Over Rebels Petition

To put context around the type of baggage the word rebel has here is a history lesson.

Check out - I'm a Good old rebel - ( Confederate Song )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omqqGViq3N…

Or

Rare Footage of Civil War Veterans Doing the Rebel Yell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6jSqt39vF…

Rebel actually sounds a lot better now, because those guys stood for something "white" I mean "right".

Posted by Don Johnson on 07/24/2017 at 11:33 PM

Re: “State Rejects Initial Application for Irasburg and Lowell Wind Project

So nice to see the Public Utilities Commission (formerly the PSB) truly applying the law. In prior rulings, they often gave wind developers a free pass. Kudos to Roisman, the new Chairman, for his sound leadership.

18 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by VTPolicyAnalyst on 07/24/2017 at 11:15 PM

Re: “Teen Charged in South Burlington Racist Graffiti Case

Dumb nigger, dumb nigger, dumb nigger, dumb nigger.

Doesn't sound so bad when at home or work reading it on your desktop or phone. Seems natural doesn't it? If you agree then petition to ensure this poor white guy doesn't get charge, so he can teach his children about the 1% of dumb niggers (of 96% white people) in Vermont he has interacted with.

This type of behavior should not be tolerated or normalized. Just reading these comments it surprises and saddens me. Its like we have not learned anything from history.

I know Vermonter pride themselves on how accepting they are but for the 'others' who are not or have some preconceived views of people with darker skin, I just want to let you know people of color are not dumb and know when people have these preconceived views.

People of color can sense it. So there is no need to tolerate their presence they acknowledge it when they are shopping or in a coffee shop or simply walking on the street. The stares and/or hesitations by looking down to the floor tell it all.

6 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Don Johnson on 07/24/2017 at 11:11 PM

Re: “Teen Charged in South Burlington Racist Graffiti Case

? Is it really that hard to look up Vermont statutes? http://legislature.vermont.gov/statutes/section/13/031/01455
(Cite as: 13 V.S.A. 1455)
1455. Hate-motivated crimes

A person who commits, causes to be committed, or attempts to commit any crime and whose conduct is maliciously motivated by the victim's actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, ancestry, age, service in the U.S. Armed Forces, disability as defined by 21 V.S.A. 495d(5), sexual orientation, or gender identity shall be subject to the following penalties:

(1) If the maximum penalty for the underlying crime is one year or less, the penalty for a violation of this section shall be imprisonment for not more than two years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.

4 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by j bliza on 07/24/2017 at 10:12 PM

Re: “State Rejects Initial Application for Irasburg and Lowell Wind Project

Good news for the environment .Now with the money we will save lets do some
thing to preserve the the environment like putting carbon back into the soil.

10 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Bill Roddy on 07/24/2017 at 8:59 PM

Re: “Trump Admin Axes Millions in Funding for Vermont Nonprofit

When I took birth control I paid for it not anyone else, plus I wasn't messing around with guys at 13 and up either.. thats the age when a lot of teenagers are getting pregnant..but planned parenthood encourage young teens to have sex in my opinion, have sex if you get pregnant we'll abort it for you..

10 likes, 21 dislikes
Posted by Donna Boutin on 07/24/2017 at 8:58 PM

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