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Re: “Friends, Foes and Rivals: The Latest Burlington-SoBu Dustup Is Nothing New

Burlington officials did not send public notice to their own constituents who live around this neighborhood-destroying project. Believe me. Very few people who live adjacent to Burton were alerted and only became aware of the project because of a 7Days article a year after Burlington officials had already been working closely with Burton officials to line everything up.

This project was a surprise to almost everyone, except for people who work for Burton, including the city councilors, who were openly hugging Burton bigwigs on the courthouse steps before the zoning change vote. Follow the money.

How many projects are going to be rushed through the city council built on the back of a promise that the Champlain Parkway will alleviate traffic, pollution and noise concerns? City Market did so. Higher Ground/Burton is doing so, with no promise that it is ever going to be built. Why rush it? Why lie? What are they hiding?

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Posted by Reality B. Free on 07/09/2019 at 12:38 PM

Re: “Friends, Foes and Rivals: The Latest Burlington-SoBu Dustup Is Nothing New

This should be a no-brainer because what's the alternative to not re-zoning and revitalizing this never to be used as industrial space real estate. It will be an instant and significant boost to the Burlington Tax Coffers. Higher Ground will bring energy, jobs and tourism to an area that's dead after 4:00 pm. The parking is already built and if it doesn't get done, I wouldn't be surprise if down the road, Burton rethinks the need to stay in Burlington as most of the low altitude skiing (That's VT) will go away in ten years or so due to global warming. The property and sales tax on food, alcohol and tickets will be very significant if its built. Higher Ground will be slightly bigger than the two combined venues they currently use at their south burlington location. With the bigger combined space Burlington will start booking more and more big name bands that rightly recognize that Burlington is a vital market to hit in the northeast tour circuit. You combine that with Talent Skate Park, Mad Taco, Misery Loves Company, maybe some brew pub tie in and you truly have a destination that will flourish and help revitalize that part of Burlington which again is dead after 4pm.

8 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by imagrownassmanbtv on 07/06/2019 at 12:55 PM

Re: “Friends, Foes and Rivals: The Latest Burlington-SoBu Dustup Is Nothing New

@BradD, "when someone else is footing the bill"? That is the problem. Nobody is footing the bill because no one even knows just how big the bill is. In 2013, Winooski Representative George Cross introduced legislation to determine the size of the bill. To determine net economic impact from F-35 basing. And to provide for Adverse Compensation Fund (to extent of any adverse economic and health impacts). Like net profit (instead of gross profit), net economic impact looks at entire picture. Proposed legislation was straight-forward in that if F-35 has zero negative impact, there is zero need for any adverse compensation fund. However, majority of Vermont Democrats, led by Peter Shumlin and Shap Smith, were seemingly terrified of examining F35's net economic impact. So they suppressed the legislation and prevented it from reaching the floor and getting a vote.

To extent of footing noise mitigation bill, Burlington is not doing that. Federal taxpayer is, spread out over decades (estimated time it will take for all homes to receive mitigation).

BTW, the other Winooski rep, Clem Bissonnette, decided not to support his fellow Democrat and neighbor, George Cross. When asked by Fox44 News about the hearing damage & medical problems from F35s 118-120+ decibels, Bissonnette replied at the time, "There are people who say that, there are also studies out there that say just the opposite." But apparently Bissonnette decided not to put his family and his real estate dollars where his mouth is. Resigned his seat and sold his house in November 2018, to move far away to Guildhall, Vermont. Actions speak louder than words.

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Posted by Chris in S. Burlington on 07/05/2019 at 1:38 AM

Re: “Friends, Foes and Rivals: The Latest Burlington-SoBu Dustup Is Nothing New

Tom Chittenden is absolutely right and deserves credit for trying to find a "win-win." Unfortunate that, unlike Chittenden, most politicians have not sought to find a "win-win" for Vermont's most densely populated area and the civilian/commercial airport that happens to also host the Air Guard.

How much would it have cost to buy some land in Franklin County or in Northeast Kingdom and give Vermont Air National Guard their own dedicated small airport? A 9,000 foot runway, more appropriate for the F-35? Majority of Vermont Democrats had zero problem with throwing away well over $100 million of real tax dollars in the ill-fated exploration of universal health care that dozens of experts said was totally unrealistic and infeasible for a small state like Vermont to begin with. Would $50 or $60 million of the money they flushed down the toilet have bought the land and built the runway and hangar needed for the F-35's?

Just makes no sense to have the 118 decibel F-35 based in Burlington, directly amidst one-third of Vermont's population. Densest area in entire state. Colleges, the hospital, public schools, places of worship, child cares, etc. Investing in private VTANG airport seems like a win-win. Guard would get an F-35 appropriate length runway (Burlington's longest runway at 8,300 feet just barely qualifies); Vermont's rural economy would be diversified; and, based on all reports from other places where F35 already flying, Chittenden County's inner core would not be converted to equivalent of living on an air force base (as of this October).

10 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Chris in S. Burlington on 07/03/2019 at 10:41 PM

Re: “Friends, Foes and Rivals: The Latest Burlington-SoBu Dustup Is Nothing New

We don't like the noise..........Please! Don't like the sounds of airplanes then cough up the money to buy the airport. Not a chance of that happening. easy to complain when someone else is footing the bill.

7 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by BradD on 07/03/2019 at 1:09 PM

Re: “Exodus? Tenants Flee a Newly Built Burlington Apartment Complex

Is anyone else who lived there now getting hit with hundreds of dollars of painting and maintenance fees?

Posted by Zoe 1 on 06/26/2019 at 9:34 AM

Re: “A Burst of Construction Is Forever Changing Winooski's Thoroughfares

Sad that this article makes no attempt to seek out and highlight the voices of Winooski residents who are excited about development, new housing stock, and diversification of the City.

23 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by stellaquarta on 05/31/2019 at 1:08 PM

Re: “A Burst of Construction Is Forever Changing Winooski's Thoroughfares

Burlington needs to have more housing projects due to the shortage here. There also should be rent control here so the landlord's can't charge such high prices for the slummy apartments!

23 likes, 8 dislikes
Posted by Gigrape52@gmail.com on 05/29/2019 at 3:31 PM

Re: “A Burst of Construction Is Forever Changing Winooski's Thoroughfares

I'm a Winooski homeowner on North Street and I'm on board with form based code!

This article, and the debate around the Mansion Street development, have left me very concerned about the future of this community. These two individuals are simply using historic preservation as a means to derail much needed development. Burlington's lengthly review processes have played a massive role in driving up prices there, and it would do the exact same thing here.

YIMBY's support creating housing for individuals across income backgrounds. The historic character of Winooski is built on being a place where people can find affordable housing. There is no point saving the buildings if we price out all of the residents. We need to start showing up at city meetings to send this message to elected officials.

48 likes, 8 dislikes
Posted by InTheNoosk on 05/29/2019 at 1:31 PM

Re: “Nun Left: As Burlington Convent Prepares to Close, Developers 'Drool' Over Property

There is a graveyard in the backyard of the convent containing the remains of many Sisters of Mercy. This was not mentioned in the article.

12 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Si on 05/12/2019 at 12:30 AM

Re: “This Old Zoning Dispute: Duplex to Be Built After Years-Long Battle

The city tried to argue historic value on a obviously blighted building? If I was the judge in civil court for this, I would have had a hard time keeping my eye brow from popping off my head while listening to the city attorney arguing that the burnt down eye sore of a building had historic value. and I am a classics major; I like ruins - I honestly do like ruins.

City Attorney to Judge: "People have been pissing and smoking crack in this building for years, and these big developers are trying to come in and change our community!"

3 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Alfonso Villegas on 05/10/2019 at 11:42 AM

Re: “Nun Left: As Burlington Convent Prepares to Close, Developers 'Drool' Over Property

Yes keep Miro and Farrell away from there. Miro would probably want Don the con to develop it and we all know how that would go!

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Posted by Gigrape52@gmail.com on 05/07/2019 at 3:38 PM

Re: “Nun Left: As Burlington Convent Prepares to Close, Developers 'Drool' Over Property

Miro will make sure this property will be over-developed, the man just can't help himself.

It is so funny to see the Wall Street worshiping Neo-liberal Democrats and their kissing cousins, the Flat Earth All-You-Can-Eat -Buffet Righties join hands on how to degrade Burlington.

So, by all means, clear cut the property and build enough sterile looking high rise cracker boxes to cram 4000 people up there, after all . . it's "vibrant".

27 likes, 19 dislikes
Posted by NorthOldEnder on 05/02/2019 at 10:49 PM

Re: “Nun Left: As Burlington Convent Prepares to Close, Developers 'Drool' Over Property

KEEP FARRELL AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY.......bad enough the over-development on North Avenue.

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Posted by Sean Moran 1 on 05/02/2019 at 8:47 PM

Re: “Nun Left: As Burlington Convent Prepares to Close, Developers 'Drool' Over Property

Yes, they will be hearing from Aging Hippies Against New Development, Jobs, Or Business (AHANDJOB).

29 likes, 19 dislikes
Posted by knowyourassumptions on 05/02/2019 at 2:45 PM

Re: “Nun Left: As Burlington Convent Prepares to Close, Developers 'Drool' Over Property

Ted miles645
I see Steven Goodkind in their future!

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Posted by BradD on 05/02/2019 at 11:15 AM

Re: “Nun Left: As Burlington Convent Prepares to Close, Developers 'Drool' Over Property

Whomever buys the property better be ready for a fight from the locals. Doesn't matter what is proposed there will a few that will fight it to the courts so they can feel empowered.

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Posted by Ted miles645 on 05/01/2019 at 5:27 PM

Re: “Hello, Hula: Can Russ Scully Create a Lakeside Tech Scene?

As far as similarities to Silicon Valley go, at least Russ has the exploiting workers thing down: https://www.wcax.com/content/news/Burlingt…

11 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by some of us are sometimes right on 04/30/2019 at 9:44 AM

Re: “This Old Zoning Dispute: Duplex to Be Built After Years-Long Battle

Redstones new apartment building on the corner of pine and flynn, as I recall they only demolished the old Red Roberts store and redemption center and maybe one other house

4 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Gigrape52@gmail.com on 04/23/2019 at 3:06 PM

Re: “This Old Zoning Dispute: Duplex to Be Built After Years-Long Battle

So "not everyone is happy" = one neighbor who got to enjoy having open space nearby? That's thin. Better to have dropped that angle, the substantive stuff here is the city's development process.

8 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by amchoor on 04/23/2019 at 2:33 PM

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