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Re: “Media Note: WDEV Hires Veteran Journalist Dave Gram

Dave is perhaps the most laconic active journalist in Vermont. Which is saying a lot, as that tends to be the default setting. Still. He's super awesome.

Posted by RudigerVT on 02/17/2018 at 5:58 PM

Re: “After Florida Shooting, Vermont Governor Says No New Gun Laws

Who cares if Kim Jong-un gets a nuke? Nukes dont kill people, PEOPLE kill people.

... see how stupid that sounds?

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Posted by Sharon Gutwin on 02/17/2018 at 5:17 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

So he is a teenager with a documented past struggle with depression who got a shotgun to target shoot, went target shooting, and had fantasies about getting revenge on society- he even wrote down some of his delusions in a story- Like the novel 'carrie'
After being harrassed by the police for legallly owning a gun he made a poor choice and spilled the beans about his delusional plan he had fantasized about. A plan not grounded in reality and not carried out- literally just a fantasy.

what he allegedly did was exactly like what Josiah Leach actually did- threaten people without a realistic plan

Yet this young man is facing several severe charges including attempted murder

Josiah Leach pleaded guilty to charges of threatning. He never faced the severe charges this young man did despite actually naming his intended victims in an online statement he published
Both of these young men had very similar backgrounds and motivations. Nearly exact. Yet one is being charged excessevly with attempted murder, attempted aggravated assault etc, and one has repeatedly been allowed to stay on probation despite him violating said terms multiple times.

this whole deal is about taking political advantage of troubled times and they are using this poor kids as their means of doing it. They are literally trying to advance their careers by ruining this kids life over non existent crimes.

that is shameful on many levels. Perhaps even racist as well.

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Posted by Snow Creek on 02/17/2018 at 3:26 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

@rogerhill "Would this really hurt gun owners"

I would only add, that your comment should read: would it really hurt "potential" gun owners, as it would not make any sense to create retroactive legislation. On top of it being nearly impossible to enforce, you would get way more push back from the "they took our guns" camp.

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Posted by Shaun Boyce on 02/17/2018 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

It is sick and evil that anyone is forcing children through mass shooter drilling in schools. Every republican bought by the NRA is an accomplice to the gunmen who murdered our children. Buying republicans is good for business, it only cost gun manufacturers a few hundred million and they've made hundreds of billions. What a great ROI for the NRA.

Forcing kids to hide under desks in case of nuclear attack is something we mock because of how plainly stupid and useless it was. Forcing kids to hide under a desk in case someone with an AR-15 assault rifle starts firing at them is plainly stupid and useless.

Voting for pro-slaughter republicans and valuing gun rights over our children's lives is evil and inhuman. If you value a gun more than a child's right to live in peace and safety, what kind of person are you? What in the name of all that's holy is wrong with everyone?

The second amendment wasn't meant to torment our kids so civilians can equip themselves with military arsenals. The NRA's time has finally come. Their parents may vote for republicans but our children are sick of being slaughtered in school. They're sick of being terrorized. They are growing up and they will vote. And they will never vote for a NRA-purchased pro-slaughter republican political tool of gun manufacturers. And the majority of Americans will despise republican voters who worship guns over the safety of our children.

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Posted by Philip Ell on 02/17/2018 at 3:17 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

Snow Creek, there are more informative articles that reinforce that the arrest was justified. You can give them a read http://www.rutlandherald.com/articles/poli…

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Posted by Shannon Alexander on 02/17/2018 at 3:05 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

Shannon- never mind. Lets just start sending every kid to prison who thinks of a threat.

We should also lock up Stephen King. As he wrote the original journal on school terrorism

He was also an out of control cocaine addict as well

Under todays laws imagine what would happen if he went target shooting with a copy of his at work book 'carrie' in tow? Along with being loaded on Cocaine and Alcohol?

he would be charged in the same manner this young man is.

Do you think he would have gone on to the career he has?

Or would he be a failure for life for writing out a fantasy?

I prefer to live in a free country where crimes are only punishied when they are actually commted

I am not convinced that this was ever a serious threat any more than what Josiah Leach did
In fact I see this as less serious as he never actually threatned anyone. He indicated to a close friend that he had THOUGH about acting out what I feel is a fantasy

I dont want to live in a police state where thoughts about crimes or even stories about them are to be treated as actual crimes. A police state where everyone is afraid to say anything for fear of being arrested over virtually anything

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Posted by Snow Creek on 02/17/2018 at 2:59 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

As one has, as you call it, freedom to think, you should occasionally use it, sir. Amendment of the Constitution was written into the document itself. Amend the Second Amendment, or have the blood of even more innocents on your hands, FreedonToDink.

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Posted by John Gallagher on 02/17/2018 at 2:46 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

Again Snow Creek I will reference the article "a young woman who lived in the area had received disturbing social media messages from Sawyer. One message said, in part, "Just a few days ago I was plotting on shooting up my old high school so it's not like I really wanted a future anyways." That is not just teenage angst. Yes sometimes cops lie but I'm not going to automatically assume they are. The journal was not kept in his room it was in his car with his gun. I agree that it's a slippery slope when actions haven't occurred but it sounds like a lot of solid evidence against him and the legal system will decide regardless of what we think. I'm just glad those responsible citizens reported his behavior and we're not mourning the needless deaths of more children.

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Posted by Shannon Alexander on 02/17/2018 at 2:00 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

Shannon- Have you ever read the novel 'Carrie'?

thats the level of threat this young man posed.

He allegedly admitted his plan- officers frequently lie.

even if he said what he allegedly said- its the context it was said in that matters

Regardless- In court he has denied the allegations.

I will let the legal process determine his level of guilt

What he was caught with was a story he had wrote but never acted our or even threatned to act out

He told a few of his friends of previous thoughts he had never acted on.

this is very commen as kids- who has not said they would "kill" someone after a fight or what not as a kid?

as kids its not meant literally- its meant to show anger

lets not ruin this kids life over what amounts to a story

A story he kept in his room

What you people want is a police state where thoughts are outlawed and mob justice is warrented.

thats not what America was founded on

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Posted by Snow Creek on 02/17/2018 at 12:49 PM

Re: “'The Last Minute to Play': Oil Mogul Skip Vallee Takes the Fight to Cancer

Linus Leavens:
Uhm okay. I'm still not quite understanding what your diatribe means in this context, but it seems that you just have an extreme distaste for anything having to do with the left. That's cool, I guess, but this isn't a right vs. left dichotomy. This isn't a discussion about the right of the state to tax a product. This is about how Northeast Vermont is one of the most profitable places to sell gasoline and that it's due to the actions of some greedy men.

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Posted by Thommy Taber on 02/17/2018 at 12:30 PM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

timothy price says "The direction that would be most effective would be to introduce gun courses in schools, training in gun laws, gun safety, and good habits of gun ownership. " That worked really well in Florida. Cruz was in the gun club in the school, sponsored by the NRA, with NRA trainers. He was known as a good shot. So yeah, I guess his training was effective. Thanks NRA. Great job. Timothy, maybe you should read some news from real sources instead of your Facebook feed.

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Posted by Dan Mahoney on 02/17/2018 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

FreedomToThink? Is that one of those ironic names, like calling a fat guy "Tiny"? Not to disparage you. Certainly you have the freedom to share your thoughts.

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Posted by Mark Lade on 02/17/2018 at 11:46 AM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

Roger Hill

What an absolute disgrace!

Rights are "granted" to slaves, by kings, nobility and monarchy. Free men/women have their rights inherent as a matter of birth. Have you ever studied American history even one day of your life? Have you ever read The Bill of Rights under which we live? If you love the Australian systems so much, please, by all means move there, go live on your knees.

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Posted by FreedomToThink on 02/17/2018 at 11:44 AM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

John Gallagher
How about the slaughter or tens of thousands of colonist that fought and died to secured those and other rights for us and then wrote the constitution to insure we didnt loose them again. I guess they mean nothing to you? Their legacy must be dead in the small capacity of your mind. They realized the need for the second amendment as we would continue to need to secure those rights for ourselves every single day going forward. We have a responsibility to not just throw away way what they gave us.

I will not trade liberty for security. "Were doing this to keep you safe" has been the mantra of every step toward tyranny our government has made. If you wish to be the safe little subject of an oppressive government, there are plenty to choose from out there, pack your bags buddy, go be a slave to other men. Im not going to just turn over my liberty and that of my children, because some sniveling little coward wants other people to keep him safe. My safety is my own responsibility, not the governments.

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Posted by FreedomToThink on 02/17/2018 at 11:39 AM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

We allow teachers to mold the minds of our youth, why not allow them to protect them as well. How many teachers in a given school already own and are familiar with guns? Several I bet & after taking a state certification class of some kind, they could be allowed to defend our children & themselves, if they so choose. Look at Assistant Coach Feis who died in that tragic shooting the other day, he was not only a coach but also a security guard. Had he been allowed to carry his weapon on school grounds he might have been able to stop the carnage of so many and saved himself. He should have been armed and if the murderer had known he would be faced with deadly force on that campus, maybe he would have thought twice about that particular "soft target".

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Posted by Reginald O. Jackson on 02/17/2018 at 11:27 AM

Re: “Union Members Dispute Claim of 'Unanimous' Driscoll Endorsement

This really is a non-story. It is routine for union leadership and committees to look over the record of candidates, often with an interview, and make an endorsement. Unions follow representative governance and trustees or leadership undertake the serious business of political endorsements. I did so as a representative of about 1,000 Montpelier State employees Montpelier chapter. Union leadership does not determine how their members will vote but are tasked with selecting candidates best aligned with the union values and interest. Tony Redington, Vermont State Employees Association Retiree Chapter member

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Posted by Tony Redington on 02/17/2018 at 11:02 AM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

Thank you for realising this error Governor Scott. Second amendment will not change so we can all carry guns, many of us should not however in my opinion. We really should look into Australia ways of how they handled this same dilemma. Find solutions one of which I've heard in Australia is everyone has the right to a gun, but they do it like a motor vehicle where you are certified but you have to ask why you want one - target shooting, hunting all the of the traditions in tact and you pass the safety course and of course mental course and your rights are granted. Would this really hurt gun owners - no, inconvenience probably some but this might be the way to go. Please govern as a Vermonter and not a Republican - thank you.

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Posted by Roger Hill on 02/17/2018 at 10:43 AM

Re: “Vermont Senate Approves $15 Minimum Wage

More of Vermont liberals pushing for hyperinflation when they should be reducing the cost of living. Under the guise of "good intention", Is there no end to their idiocy?

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Posted by timothy price on 02/17/2018 at 9:52 AM

Re: “Walters: Scott Shifts Gun Stance Following Fair Haven Threat

The direction that would be most effective would be to introduce gun courses in schools, training in gun laws, gun safety, and good habits of gun ownership. That is what schools are for, and drivers ed classes do just that.
Also, placing armed guards at schools, (perhaps the gun safety instructor), and arming faculty would be fine as well. The liberal left only wants to limit gun ownership so are not helpful at all in reducing the threat if violence.
Schools should be about teach children what is important to them for success within a just society.

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Posted by timothy price on 02/17/2018 at 9:43 AM

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