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Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
Terje Anderson objects to sweeping generalizations. While I agree that Young Grandmas posts are racist and disgusting, Terje Anderson posts comments containing sweeping generalizations about conservatives, Republicans, etc., all the time.
Posted by
knowyourassumptions
on 09/18/2018 at 7:32 PM
Re: “Despite Controversy, Burlington Principal Plans to Vet Student Newspaper Stories”
James Berry:
Teachers? I havent read a single reference or report that implicates teachers in censoring student reporting.
The union you probably mean is the BAA or Burlington Administrators Association - building administrators have their own bargaining unit whose negotiations go mostly unnoticed by the public at large while teachers unions get pilloried and demonized every negotiations cycle.
Dave S:
Youve hit the nail on the head! Well said, well suggested!
Posted by
VTreelover
on 09/18/2018 at 6:42 PM
Re: “Thunderhill: Low-Flying Mystery Planes Rattle Small Vermont Town”
Stunning how many commentors would like us to blindly trust our military in this day and age, as if the last fifty years hadn't happened.
Posted by
Grey Jing
on 09/18/2018 at 5:55 PM
Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
There is a long history of using bad science (like the extremely dubious IQ/nationality "statistics" cited above) to justify racism and the denigrating of people of other races and ethnicities.
That long history includes the claims used to justify slavery that Africans were somehow intellectually inferior; the ugly eugenics movement that forcibly sterilized many in Native American and immigrant communities to prevent reproduction by those "genetically inferior" populations; the efforts to prohibit immigration by Jews and those from Italy, Ireland, Eastern Europe, Latin America, Asia and the Middle East based on "scientific" claims of racial superiority. This kind of pseudo-science was at the heart of the ideology that produced the Holocaust, the maintenance of Jim Crow in the US, and the system of Apartheid in South Africa.
Putting numbers in a post doesn't make it more credible or "scientific"... it is simply an effort to dress up old-fashioned racism in a lab coat. I'm sad that 7D has allowed this racist tripe to remain up...despite guidelines that say "Sweeping generalizations of any group or individual based on race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, or age wont be tolerated."
Posted by
terjeanderson
on 09/18/2018 at 5:18 PM
Re: “Vermont Delegation Calls for Delay in Kavanaugh Vote”
From a speech Kavanaugh gave to the Yale Law School Federalist Society:
"We got our work done, but we had our share of fun. During our third year class party, it was a beautiful night then as it is tonight. We were at the Lawn Club.... We had a memorable evening. It is fair to say that we had a few drinks. Indeed, as a classmate of mine and I were reminiscing and piecing things together the other day, we think we had more than a few beers before the banquet. Might have been at Toads. Not a good idea.
Anyway, toward the end of the evening a friend of mine who shall remain namelessand this is a story that is really about a friend of mine, not about me where I am disguising myself as a friend of minemy friend broke a table in the Lawn Club reception area. Smashed it into multiple pieces. I actually still possess a photo of him sprawled on the floor on top of the table. Howd did he break it, you might ask? The old-fashioned way. He lost his balance and fell into the table, drink in hand, and the table collapsed. My friend was a big guy.
Now, you might think that we would have quickly left the Lawn Club after that, with some sense of shame. But youd be wrong. My friend actually tried to get another drink at the bar. Proving something I have always knownthat bartenders have a lot more common sense than many law school studentsthe bartender refused to serve my friend.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/…
Posted by
JohnGreenberg
on 09/18/2018 at 12:39 PM
Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
One must ask what is the average IQ of the American white racist?
It makes me sad to see Americans (we are all immigrants) still believing that landed white immigrants are somehow superior. Good to see all the flashback.
Posted by
William Schubart
on 09/18/2018 at 10:47 AM
Posted by
The Oracle
on 09/18/2018 at 8:23 AM
Re: “Vermont Delegation Calls for Delay in Kavanaugh Vote”
to bad our reps can't think for themselves... its a disservice when they expose themselves as idiots.
Bernie won't even speak to the vt press what bs
Posted by
ski pepsi
on 09/18/2018 at 7:02 AM
Re: “Vermont Delegation Calls for Delay in Kavanaugh Vote”
If she was so distraught over this, why has she not said anything until now? No matter who you voted for, this should be very disconcerning as the government is trying to steal more of our rights. 1st attorney client privileges, now holding actions from over 30 years ago from when they were a teen?
Posted by
Homer C
on 09/18/2018 at 6:07 AM
Re: “Ready or Not: Is Gentrification Inevitable in Burlington's Old North End?”
Is anyone from 7Days going to bother to talk to people actually impacted by gentrification in the ONE? How about looking at declining rates of Section 8 housing (% of units given to Section 8 vouchers in even 2010 vs now) and asking how people like Bisonnettes, who admitted as much to the Claytons, are getting away with intentionally moving poor people out to St. A, Milton, etc in order to charge as much as possible for their units?
Posted by
Kae Burdo
on 09/18/2018 at 5:32 AM
Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End”
Tom S: It's true, we can never know the REAL truth just based on an article published in any venue. One has to wonder though about someone having six kids they can't afford.
Posted by
BDE
on 09/18/2018 at 1:21 AM
Re: “Man Who 'Hates Vermont and Vermonters' Is Looking for Work — in Vermont”
Why would anyone hire a whining sniveling complainer for anything demanding personal responsibility? First rule of management: NEVER hire a problem!
Posted by
wahrheit
on 09/17/2018 at 10:22 PM
Re: “Vermont Delegation Calls for Delay in Kavanaugh Vote”
The 3 baldies of Vermont. what a joke they are.. This so-called accuser waited this long to report the attack? She's a democrat, anti-Trump hater. who was probably paid off to do this? Feinstein said she's had this letter for months now.. The Swamp is getting dirtier and dirtier. Just like the Swamp in Montpelier. They are going to find out she is lying, which will make it harder on real victims.
Posted by
Donna Boutin
on 09/17/2018 at 10:14 PM
Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
My gratitude for living in a Republic where everyone has the right to freedom of speech is severely dampened when someone abuses that right by choosing to express hate and racism
Immigrants that grow up in the US and are educated here have the potential to measure best in their class. Their nationality of origin doesnt limit their IQ or potential. The opportunity and resources they encounter are likely better indicators of future success.
To contrast western societies that benefit from and promote education, (concluding that they are white) , with developing societies (people of color) is the definition of racism and White Supremacy.
Posted by
Z!
on 09/17/2018 at 10:02 PM
Re: “Super Volunteer Laura Hale Grows Community in Burlington's Old North End”
Lol, it'd be nice if any of the stuff surrounding Foote's story was true...she never faced a housing crisis, her kids were still housed, and she had capitalized on this entire situation because, and she said this explicitly, she wants to sit at home benefiting from her kids SSI. Y'all have been had, including you, 7 Days reporter. Maybe actually following up on what people say could be valuable?
Posted by
Tom S
on 09/17/2018 at 9:58 PM
Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
Thanks, Kymelya for this great article. When I look at the changes in our community in the last 15 years, I am heartened not only by the vibrant city Burlington has become, but deeply impressed by our young New Americans and the work they have done to add to the richness here. Muslim Girls Making Change are just one awesome example. At the town hall meeting this weekend, I saw former UVM students of mine from Somalia and the Sudan who, after completing their BAs, have become professionals and leaders in our community.
Unfortunately, racial stereotypes and biological theories of inequality die hard, despite the research that disproves them. Doug Hoffer makes some great points about the data posted by another commenter, and he is right to caution that care needs to be taken in interpreting data.
Let me add a couple of additional things for readers to chew on:
1. Women do worse on SAT tests than men, and yet they are soaring in the academic world.
2. One of the most interesting studies on IQ is of the Buraku, a caste of people discriminated against in Japan in education, housing, and employment. Buraku children typically score ten to fifteen points below other Japanese children on IQ tests. Yet when the Buraku emigrate to the United States, the IQ gap between them and other Japanese vanishes. What this tell us is that social context matters.
Posted by
sseguino
on 09/17/2018 at 9:56 PM
Re: “Walters: Scott and Hallquist Face Off in First Debate”
*Donna Bout in has a habit of making offensive, uneducated comments . . .*
True. But then again, so do you, and GI Grape, and others on here. Just from the exact opposite political direction.
Posted by
knowyourassumptions
on 09/17/2018 at 9:21 PM
Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
I love that our local economy has been transformed by new American businesses which have stabilized North Street through thriving shops, improved the ONE real estate market with local home ownership, and prevented our schools from declining enrollment which would have laid off teachers and staff as is happening in the rest of VT. So grateful that Burlington is home to yet another new American community and generations to come!
Posted by
Liz Curry
on 09/17/2018 at 9:15 PM
Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
Classic racist comment disguised as an innocuous stating of facts. The comment has nothing to do with the article, but does remind me that many of my fellow white/European-descended people believe we are inherently better/smarter than others. Of course culture is one factor of cultivating an inteligent population, but so is stability, opportunity, and amount of time spent simply surviving (food, shelter, safety). With so many Bosnian refugees in Vermont, its curious why Bosnia wasnt listed but Arab and African countries were. Regardless, I at least find comfort that most of us Vermonters are accepting, neighborly, kind people who are more likely to help others than not.
Posted by
Citizens > Corporations
on 09/17/2018 at 8:55 PM
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Re: “Burlington Town Hall Featuring Bernie Sanders Draws New American Crowd”
@KNOWYOURASSUMPTIONS
That isn't my objection, what I quoted was the 7D guidelines say about what is considered acceptable to post here: " "Sweeping generalizations of any group or individual based on race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, or age wont be tolerated." I don't see anything in the guidelines about ideology or party membership.
BTW, while you hide behind your fake name, you spew out sweeping generalizations all the time, denigrating Sanders supporters, Zuckerman supporters, the Democratic Party leadership, or anyone who challenges Phil Scott or Republicans -- to say nothing of having a long history of engaging is personal attacks against me. (Which you seem determined to keep doing based on this last post.)
Drop the mask and use your real name if you want to engage in actual discussion instead of the kind of childish drive-by attacks that characterize most of your posts, But we all know you won't do that.