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Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

The duelling rallies were just that...they were not uniting events. Black Lives matters wants to dictate to South Burlington and the Rebels are not buying it. The community really cares put it up to a vote and let the losers accept the will of the people of South Burlington.

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Posted by Saffron on 04/27/2017 at 9:03 PM

Re: “South Burlington Death Threat Suspect Released Pending Trial

Unfortunately by releasing Mr Leach we are all in danger. An angry young man who made death threats and terrorized a community is free in his mother's custody. The same mother that was probably too frightened to supervise him all the years he has been getting in trouble. I don't buy his lawyer and the judge's theory that they didn't find any weapons hence he meant no harm. Next time he will kill, now that he has tasted the power of creating fear in a whole community.

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Posted by Saffron on 04/27/2017 at 8:47 PM

Re: “Do No Harm: New Rules Discourage Overprescribing Opiates

"In 2015, enough painkillers were handed out in Vermont to give every man, woman and child a bottle of 100 pills," former governor Peter Shumlin said in his signing statement."

How many were given to post-surgical patients? How many were for hospice patients?

The vast majority of opiate users are not addicts. Opiates are becoming as stigmatized as psych meds.

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Posted by Liz Leyden on 04/27/2017 at 5:43 PM

Re: “South Burlington Death Threat Suspect Released Pending Trial

Hi @Rich ard. Just wanted to point out to you that every story, except for the first one announcing the arrest, has mentioned Leach's race. There's even this line from the story you just commented on: "Leach is African American."

Here are the other examples:

"Leach, who is African American, is accused of making racially charged death threats in a widely circulated video that sent chills through the city."
https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/arc…

"The teen, who is African American, allegedly made eight threats last week to kill students and staff in retaliation for the racially charged decision to drop the high school's Rebels nickname."
https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/arc…

"Leach, who is African American, allegedly issued a kill list of specific teachers and students."
https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/arc…

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Posted by Sasha Goldstein on 04/27/2017 at 4:46 PM

Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

Two things here. First the student who is supposed to represent the ENTIRE student body was a a rally hosted by groups that last time I checked were anti police and I have found one shred of evidence that these groups have promoted anything that isn't in their own interest. Ask yourselves please what Latin American, what Spanish American, what Italian American interest have these groups ever promoted?

Second since Hosiah is supposed to represent the entire student body did he bother to even go and thank the SBPD or the FBI who put their time and outstanding efforts to protecting him and his fellow students. But he is not only standing proudly at a rally but even spoke at the rally. Is the student that is the representative of the school body supposed to be apolitical.

Bottom line here. Hosiah I call for your resignation as the rep for students at SBHS effective immediately. Also any further decision regregarding racism in our school should be sent to the board of education for review. Mr Young please for the love of all stand down from the name change and let the community be what they have clearly shown that the majority want. LET THEM BE REBELS!

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Posted by Iserved20 on 04/27/2017 at 4:27 PM

Re: “South Burlington Death Threat Suspect Released Pending Trial

Until this article I had no idea the suspect was black . 7Days has previously posted multiple times on this story . Why wasn't this mentioned . Is it because it would spoil the narrative ? Is it because this wasn't seen as pertinent ? Ever wonder why people mistrust the media .

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Posted by Rich ard on 04/27/2017 at 4:06 PM

Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

The group isn't called "Only Black Lives Matter," Carrie.

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Posted by Scott Pavek on 04/27/2017 at 3:24 PM

Re: “Walters: 'Plenty of Time' for Scott’s New Plan

I'm not a republican but we need more people like Phil Scott in government. It would've been much easier for him to do nothing, taking on the teacher's union requires a great deal of courage and fortitude.

Individual school boards do not have the power or resources to fight against the NEA's demands, demands that have resulted in lopsided communities where taxpayers scrimp and struggle and go without basic needs in order to fund teachers at unsustainable salaries and benefits. We have fewer students yet school budgets keep going up.

Thank you Governor Scott for your bravery in fighting for school boards and students and taxpayers. Political courage is in short supply, and I will work to elect politicians of any party who put the people above their own political ambitions and short-term interest.

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Posted by Penelope on 04/27/2017 at 3:12 PM

Re: “Do No Harm: New Rules Discourage Overprescribing Opiates

i understand your concerns @David Skillman, however I think the same limitations in people that move them towards addiction also prevent them from being able to "take responsibility for their actions and bad choices". most people i've met who've made really bad life decisions didn't know at the time how bad those choices were. those who were able to take responsibility in terms of remorse or reparations had to have some kind of intervention, whether medical, psychological or reaching some kind of desperate situation where circumstances force them into a learning curve. but not everyone suffers. i've met 'functional' alcoholics and opiate users who don't bottom-out, don't commit robberies, earn a decent wage and live a productive life - as addicts, but not criminals in the sense of having to take responsibility for anything at all. addiction isn't by definition about depravity and desperation although it often is.

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Posted by parallax on 04/27/2017 at 2:48 PM

Re: “Better Burg? Burlington's 'Development Mayor' Makes His Case for a Third Term

I see. I guess according to Lade and Philo, for a profile on Mayor Weinberger it wasn't enough for 7D to interview various people across the political and ideological spectrum: Democrats, Republicans, and Progressives. It wasn't enough to print the lengthy quotations of two people who hate him. It wasn't enough to interview a developer, a Prog city councilor, a former Progressive mayor, and a non-motorized transportation advocate, among others. No, I guess Lade and Philo think that any piece that isn't purely negative about Weinberger is a "puff piece." I guess Lade and Philo think the ONLY people who should have been interviewed for this story are members of the Crackpots For a Livable City.

Yeah, that seems fair and reasonable.

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Posted by knowyourassumptions on 04/27/2017 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Do No Harm: New Rules Discourage Overprescribing Opiates

I have two comments. People always want to blame others for people's shortcomings. At some point, an addict, or someone moving towards addiction needs to take some responsibility for their actions and bad choices. It's not all the Doctor's fault. Also, nothing in these laws is going to keep an addict from getting what they want. It will only make it harder for responsible people to get medicine they need.

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Posted by David Skillman on 04/27/2017 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Walters: 'Plenty of Time' for Scott’s New Plan

Rep. George Till (D-Jericho) asked whether Scotts plan would leave teachers with poorer coverage. Will people not get the ongoing care they need? he asked. That $26 million is health care the teachers will not be getting.

They will be receiving the same coverage that you have mandated all others in the state to chose from. So it's OK for everyone, but the teachers?

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Posted by Cheryl Pariseau on 04/27/2017 at 11:47 AM

Re: “Do No Harm: New Rules Discourage Overprescribing Opiates

The worst part seems to be the idea that we have to trade painfree medical treatment for stringent controls. This isn't a zero-sum game and it's possible to obtain both as long as you're willing to accept the consequences. Pain perception is impossible to understand objectively so pain meds can't be presumed necessary or excessive. If the patient says they're in pain then presume they're in pain and experience should guide the proper prescribing, not the state. The idea that you can "go into a doctor's office and come out with a bagful." isn't about pain, it's about criminal activity on the part of the doctor, not the patient. The consumption or illegal resale of the pills is about very difficult socio-economic problems, not about surgical procedure aftermath or chronic pain and it's the price we pay for addictive pain meds. We made this tradeoff easily enough when adopted the automobile as a lifestyle improvement device and we quietly accept half a million deaths each year. We accept this easily with readily available nicotine and pay the price of cancer deaths and medical support for the adult addicts. It's so easy with cigarettes and cars and alcohol and a whole host of things. Painfree medical treatment is an incredibly awesome achievement and we're worried about a few deaths each year? We're complaining about decreased productivity and costs to society by supporting the medically needy addicts? Big deal. That's pennies compared to what we're already paying for due to cars, nicotine and alcohol. How about considering the question of *over* prescription and consumption outside of the context of the doctor-patient relationship and focus on standards of care instead of treating pain intolerance or even opium addiction as some kind of moral failing that doesn't deserve relief.

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Posted by parallax on 04/27/2017 at 11:38 AM

Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

It's sad that people like Vicki Garrison are allowed to inject their personal agenda and hate-filled diatribe into our community. Some of her Facebook posts promoting "toxic whiteness" are beyond decency. And there is no such thing as "racial" justice or "social" justice. There is justice. Equal justice for all races, creeds, and colors. This is why the statue of justice wears a blindfold.

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Posted by Will R on 04/27/2017 at 11:35 AM

Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

I can't believe nobody is talking about the fact that Josiah Leach was actually in support of changing the name.

On 4/19/17 JoJo Leach posted to Isaiah Hines' FB wall..."Keep up the good work bro i respect your movements and what you're doing 100." This doesn't sound like a person who wants to keep the Rebel name. Isaiah acknowledged to compliment "Thanks dude, I appreciate that {black fist up, black fist bump}".

Do people really buy into what he said in the threat letter and video? It was all an elaborate ruse to look like an angry white person aligned with the Rebel Alliance was issuing the threats. The video is of a random video still that had nothing to do with any of this, all part of the ruse.

Also, to not acknowledge the facts surrounding BLM. Perhaps the root of the movement is legitimately focused. However, their are factions of the organization that have called for the killing of white people and cops. The organizers of this movement have not issued an condemnation of these actions. They are in all sense of the words a domestic terror organization. Just a simple Google search of BLM Kill Cops, the results are disturbing. This is not an organization or it's constituents that anyone should support to be involved with our schools.

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Posted by StateTheObvious on 04/27/2017 at 10:30 AM

Re: “Digital Forensics Led to Charge Against South Burlington Student

Reminds me a lot of those girls in Albany who fabricated racial attack while all the white bystanders did nothing to help... turns out the girls were actually the aggressors. Why do these people position themselves as victims by making up racist attacks? Because they don't have a leg to stand on otherwise.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/nyre…

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Posted by ReneBushey on 04/27/2017 at 9:36 AM

Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

Can you imagine in a white student had been posing as a person of color and threatening to kill white people to help push a narrative? You'd be hearing about it on the national news, I guarantee it.

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Posted by ReneBushey on 04/27/2017 at 9:21 AM

Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

Thank you SBPD and FBI for your swift investigation. This mama bear is relieved that all students will be safe to go back to school on Monday! Wonderful job by Rebel Alliance for honoring our local heroes by planning a positive event intended to unify our community with grateful hearts.

It's time for our community to heal. Anyone willing to compromise? A wise student suggested rebranding to the Rebel Eagles at a recent school board meeting. I think that's a fantastic solution.

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Posted by Mama3ta on 04/27/2017 at 8:51 AM

Re: “Walters: 'Plenty of Time' for Scott’s New Plan

I wonder if, maybe lying in bed unable to sleep, Ds in this legislature thinks the statewide health insurance contract is a good idea.

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Posted by Kathy on 04/27/2017 at 8:35 AM

Re: “A Divided South Burlington Tries to Unite With Two Separate Events

Black Lives Matter doesn't mean "Black lives matter MORE than anyone else's." It means "Black lives matter AS MUCH AS anyone else's." It's not anti-police, it's trying to underscore the cultural bias that many of us hold in this country that views black people as more dangerous, more threatening, and more expendable and results in their death. The movement is trying to correct that bias and save black people's lives.

The terms white fragility, white privilege, white dominance - those phrases are used to describe how racism, as a system, works, and how it hurts all of us, white people included. You can ignore the phrases, you can call them racist, but these things still exist in our culture whether you acknowledge them or not. The hurt and harm they cause is there whether you are willing to look at it or not. It's painful to talk about racism if you are white, and certainly easier to ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist (by calling these terms racist). But how good does ignoring it feel when your friends and neighbors are hurting?

And Ed, don't know where you're getting the "just moved to Vermont" piece of this. Many people involved have lived here their whole lives. Maybe it's because white Vermonters often assume people of color must be from somewhere else?

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Posted by dolly on 04/27/2017 at 8:18 AM

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