Charlie Messing | Seven Days | Vermont's Independent Voice

Charlie Messing 
Member since Feb 21, 2014


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Re: “New Airport Noise Map Is Not Expected to Lead to More Home Demolitions

The noise levels will be like standing in front of a rock band at full volume.
It will be that loud for folks on the ground. Here's some research on decibels:

"According to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (1998), continued exposure to noise above 85 dB(A) will likely cause permanent hearing loss. The maximum exposure time at 85 dB(A) is 8 hours, which should be followed by 16 hours of quiet recovery time. At 110 dB(A), the maximum exposure time is approximately one minute and 29 seconds. "

An F-35 can produce 140 db taking off, 120 db in flight - with afterburners shut off.
They're twice as loud as the F-18s.
Look at a decibel chart here: https://boomspeaker.com/noise-level-chart-…
So, folks, we have a situation.
Remember people saying the jets are "the sound of freedom"? Well, they won't be able to hear it for long.

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 05/17/2019 at 3:25 PM

Re: “Community Health Centers of Burlington Unionization Effort Ends With Mixed Results

Thanks, I've changed my mind on the whole thing!
[Actually I just think that we get spin on these figures at times. This one is not not an egregious error. It's just the way I see things.]

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 05/10/2019 at 11:53 PM

Re: “Community Health Centers of Burlington Unionization Effort Ends With Mixed Results

Well, I'll just say that describing a majority as "razor-thin" is slanted reporting. When the vote came for The Mall (Cityspace) it only won by 4%. In this case (the 84 voters at CHCB) it comes out to 3.36%. So Cityplace won by a razor-thin margin too. Hilary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 by less than 3%. People don't even call that one thin, they just say she won - and the Court voted Trump in. The electoral vote for Trump - well, it wasn't thin at all.
I hope we hear more about the second vote in this case.

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 05/10/2019 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Violence Caught on Camera Leads to Brutality Claims Against Burlington Cops

Mr. Gora, you make some good points. But, you should call the police about what you see. (I don't mean 911, I mean the local number: 658-2704.) Tell them what is happening.
It is not enough to say "Someone should have called them." A good citizen takes responsibility.

This part: "Just like the Mafia the police is our there to offer protection to the bars/clubs..." I do not understand. Do you know of incidents where money was exchanged for protection? Perhaps you're just trying to get a handle on why they seem present sometimes and not other times. I agree they should be a bit more present - on Church St., in City Hall Park, or wherever folks congregate in such a way as to annoy others.

I have not seen a lot of smoking on Church St. in the past few years - you have? Anyplace in particular? What I would love to outlaw (and I'm sure it's impossible) is people yelling to their friends (fifty feet away), in someone else's ear!
I have found that if you talk to people, even people who are very different than you, you can get good results.
Face to face is the real "social media," and always will be.

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 05/07/2019 at 3:16 PM

Re: “Violence Caught on Camera Leads to Brutality Claims Against Burlington Cops

Hi FreedomToThink,
Since you address me by name, I read it like it was for me.
Some of what you say paraphrases the Declaration of Independence
It seems you're suggesting some way to reorganize the whole thing, but I have no idea how you, or we, could do that. It will be good if this incident and controversy results in getting this type of protocol straightened out, or replaced, whatever can work.

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 05/05/2019 at 6:53 PM

Re: “Violence Caught on Camera Leads to Brutality Claims Against Burlington Cops

Sorry Scuba, I agree with many comments here. And you have a lot of good ideas, mixed with rage. (Nobody's getting kicked to the curb, you know?) But you're certainly right that this kind of thing not only shouldn't continue, but a concerned public does need to find out how to change what's going on.

When I said "national" I meant the militarization of the police has been a national trend - it's not just here. It came from further up. (It's not just us - that's what I meant.) You're right that we can't affect that - we can only deal with the local situation. I'm with you.

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 05/04/2019 at 11:02 PM

Re: “Violence Caught on Camera Leads to Brutality Claims Against Burlington Cops

Scuba,
The problems start at a national level. We can't just demonize the BPD; we should talk to them about keeping their heads in these situations. Far worse has happened elsewhere, if you read up on the history of policework, and the recent turns (last decade or two). We have to talk with them - not yell at them. They're people.
Dan Mayhew,
Maybe you need to hit "Caps Lock" one more time. We understand you feel strongly. Think about it.
Freedomtothink,
Having a police force is supposed to be how a community polices themselves. If there's a disconnect, we must re-connect it. I don't think the solution is to dismiss them all. I know what you mean, but if we can talk to them it will help. When I was a kid, the police had names, were friendly, and were part of the community. It should be like that again.

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Posted by Charlie Messing on 05/04/2019 at 10:35 AM

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