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Fascinating how the feelings and responses of trans Vermonters seem uniquely subject to everyone else's approval. Enthusiastic approval, even, given how much relish both the owner and so many commenters seem to take in "putting them in their place" (that place being irrelevance, apparently).
This was an extremely ill-considered action by the legislature that makes for a terrible precedent with many, many potential negative implications, not the least of which is an increase in cynicism about our election system. I'm deeply disappointed in the majority.
This is mind-blowingly stupid. The prosecutors should know better.... and 7Days is right, the sources are hardly secret - they can (and should) interview the subjects themselves. It smacks of laziness to the point of self-sabotage, as needlessly hitching a fundamental 1st amendment, press freedom issue on this particular wagon virtually guarantees that the whole thing will drag out forever (and worse, suddenly makes it conceivable that the whole fairly straightforward case could end up collapsing under its own weight).
What colossal foolishness. Yeah I'll bet the defense attorneys are piling on. What a golden opportunity for them to casually assist the prosecution tank its own case.
I miss simple decency.
howdydoody wrote: "I am singularly impressed that the only person in the above article to fire a salvo of innuendo is city clerk John Odum, who relates that the Scouts who "walked out" to be in tacit support of "homophobic comments" in the community."
I've come to realize I'm probably wasting my breath on this whole business, but its worth noting here that this is what happens in these conflicts: otherwise intelligent people read what they want to read (as opposed to what is actually said) in order to create straw man arguments they can tear down and deride others with. This is an example. Sadly, discussing differences and coming to understandings (in other words: engaging in democracy) is more often viewed as weakness. Instead, we have a culture of entitlement which says we should all give into our baser instincts and act like silverback gorillas if someone looks at us funny.
My quote was : "Just think of the messages they are sending to the kids themselves by just walking away at the first hint of a difference of opinion: that its OK to angrily dismiss others' deeply held beliefs, OK to walk away from commitments, and that its fine to stand by while homophobic comments are being spread, supposedly on their behalf."
A plain reading indicates I did not "declare" anyone in tacit support of anything. Instead, I advised (as I have tried to do behind the scenes to no avail) that refusing to discuss and come to an understanding - as the quote says - sends a message, whether we like it or not.
Part of our entitlement culture - the same culture that says real tough guys & gals are supposed to give into your rage, turn over the tables and thump your chest when someone disagrees with you - part of that culture also says you have the right to expect NO consequences to your actions when you do that.
That is what I was warning against. Storming off has consequences. One of those consequences WILL be the belief that the scouts support homophobia. In fact, it already is playing out as I predicted, and its really awful.
So shoot the messenger if you must, but it doesn't change reality one bit. All the adults needed to do here was step up and be adults in this. Unfortunately in our current climate of emotional entitlement and refusal to accept consequences to our actions, that's not the way it was going to play out, to the ultimate detriment of the kids.
Lisa Grover wrote "What was the council going to do at this meeting anyway?"
The answer, sadly, is that we'll never know.
Democracy doesn't work if everyone just leaves in a huff at the first hint of somebody saying something they don't like. Never has, never will.