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Re: “Scott Vetoes Gun-Purchase Waiting Period, Signs Abortion Bill

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824
"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country." James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

"A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselvesand include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms" Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty. The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." St. George Tucker, Blackstones Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

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Posted by doom on 06/19/2019 at 10:58 AM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Gun-Purchase Waiting Period, Signs Abortion Bill

The people gave the government a set, limited scope of powers in the Constitution. Anything not allowed specifically is not something the government can do constitutionally.
The bill of rights was placed there after, because they had worried that people would eventually think of this backwards. The government has unenumerated powers, the people have specific rights.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Why did the Constitution need to be amended to ban alcohol?

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Posted by doom on 06/19/2019 at 8:54 AM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Gun-Purchase Waiting Period, Signs Abortion Bill

Did you read the preamble to the bor and the ninth and tenth?
The Constitution limits a specific group of powers to the government. The bor was added a few years later, out of fear that people like you would deliberately misinterpret it. The bor says that.

You should read the previous drafts of the 2a. You should read the other ways he wrote it, in the Constitution of Virginia and elsewhere.
It's painfully clear what they were saying.

Posted by doom on 06/19/2019 at 8:37 AM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Gun-Purchase Waiting Period, Signs Abortion Bill

It's also entirely irrelevant. The 2a only recognized a natural, negative right.
The people naturally have the right to defend their lives. The Constitution was from the people, granting the government a limited power.

"THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution"

Even if the Framers only intended this to cover the militia, it still doesnt overrule your negative right to keep and bear arms. That exists separate from that sentence, which was tacked onto the Constitution by a bunch of worried gun nuts in the late seventeen hundreds.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

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Posted by doom on 06/14/2019 at 1:18 PM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Gun-Purchase Waiting Period, Signs Abortion Bill

And yet you ignore how the phrase is written.
The prefatory clause is irrelevant to the second half.
The militia is of the citizens.
https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/militia
Against a standing army? Me too!

Well regulated is exactly how I defined it.
The second half, the part that actually matters, states the people. The people's right to keep (not some armory handout) and bear (carry, possess) arms (not just guns) shall not be infringed.
Shall not is pretty clear. Infringed is also an interesting choice of verbage.

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Posted by doom on 06/14/2019 at 12:38 PM

Re: “Burlington Citizen Group Sues to Stop Champlain Parkway

So, not an eminent domain argument? Just no?

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Posted by doom on 06/11/2019 at 11:45 PM

Re: “Scott Vetoes Gun-Purchase Waiting Period, Signs Abortion Bill

What, am I not allowed to comment?
Alas! I did leave, I was proud to. I Also explained several times why I left and why others are. I did promise to not give another dollar to the state of Vermont and I suppose seven days gets some ad revenue off me though.

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Posted by doom on 06/11/2019 at 10:54 PM

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