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Doug Hoffer 
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Re: “Proof Negative: Auditor Documents Lack of Evidence for Business Incentives

"Yeah, we knew that. We've heard it from you 1,000 times before."

Your uninformed knee-jerk reaction might be humorous if it wasn't so sad. You clearly haven't read the report, which is intended to be a tool for policymakers and managers. The point is to inform the discourse about how best to utilize our limited economic development resources (and therefore protect taxpayers). We review the literature regarding numerous economic development strategies in order to help policymakers make informed choices.

Rather than "antipathy for...business incentive programs," it's a prudent approach to policymaking. But if you think it should be done without the benefit of peer-reviewed literature, than I guess we just disagree.

Finally, if you have information that I'm not aware of that would allow us to validate the efficacy of our current programs, please share it with us. If you don't, then why should we take you seriously?

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Posted by Doug Hoffer on 07/19/2018 at 5:18 PM

Re: “Sanders Speaks Out for UVM Medical Center Nurses

"And by the way, it looks like the survey Mr. Berry used to show the cost of living difference between Burlington and Boston https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/ was in fact a very well-sourced comparison. Mr. Hoffer trashed it because it didn't support his thesis that the cost of living in Boston is only "somewhat" higher than in Burlington, which is an absurd proposition on its face."

Your anger has affected your reading comprehension. I did not trash it. This is what I said.

"The point is not that "bestplaces" has no value, only that it leaves a number of methodological issues unanswered."

Furthermore, it was not my "thesis that the cost of living in Boston is only "somewhat" higher than in Burlington." That was the conclusion of the BEA - I provided a link, along with a scholarly article on the subject.

I lean to sources I can trust. I guess we have different standards.

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Posted by Doug Hoffer on 07/17/2018 at 5:22 PM

Re: “Sanders Speaks Out for UVM Medical Center Nurses

"Except . . . this one uses 48+ sources of data, including federal and state government sources. You know, the "official" ones."

Your reading of the CNBC methodology was superficial.
1) It doesn't provide details (we don't how they weighted the component parts of each category or what time frames they used).
2) Some built in assumptions may not bear directly on outcomes, but are used because they "resonate with business." Fisher addressed this "Grading Places." You can't assume that something correlates with a particular outcome; you have to prove it.
3) Certain statements are inaccurate. For example, "Utility costs can add up to a huge expense for business..." Even in manufacturing the average cost of fuels and electricity is less than 2.5% of total costs.
4) They assume regulation is bad regardless of whether it protects public health, consumers or the environment.

And so on. Enough said.

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Posted by Doug Hoffer on 07/17/2018 at 5:01 PM

Re: “Walters: State of Vermont Settles EB-5 Civil Cases

Mr. Moses said "You had better rethink your $84 million remark."

No. I don't think I will. In response to someone complaining that Quiros got off with a slap on the wrist, I said that $84 milion is more than a slap on the wrist. You've said nothing to change my mind. Clearly, he did not. The other damages you mentioned are real, but the two matters are not mutually exclusive. Seems like you're just looking for a fight. If I didn't think the matter was important, I wouldn't have decided to do the audit.

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Posted by Doug Hoffer on 07/14/2018 at 11:48 AM

Re: “Walters: State of Vermont Settles EB-5 Civil Cases

"It hasn't been paid yet."

How do you know? The article is five months old.

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Posted by Doug Hoffer on 07/13/2018 at 8:46 PM

Re: “Walters: State of Vermont Settles EB-5 Civil Cases

"Getting away with a slap on the wrist !!! "

$84 million is more than a slap on the wrist.

https://vtdigger.org/2018/02/02/quiros-set…

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Posted by Doug Hoffer on 07/13/2018 at 5:31 PM

Re: “Sanders Speaks Out for UVM Medical Center Nurses

"Five of Hoffer's (publicly paid, supposedly non-partisan position as public auditor) eight comments on this thread, are partisan comments advocating for the employee side of a private employment-employer issue, posted during work (i.e., taxpayer paid) hours. 3:15 pm, 12;25 pm, 8:29 am, 12:38 pm, 1:01 pm."

My goodness. This is really sad, although not the first time. Instead of dealing with the facts, you attack the messenger with bogus allegations.

3:15 PM was on a Sunday
12:25 PM was during my lunch
8:29 AM was just before I started work
12:38 PM was during my lunch
1:01 PM was during my lunch

Do you really think people buy this crap? You are embarrassing yourself.

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Posted by Doug Hoffer on 07/10/2018 at 6:45 PM

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