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Re: “How Drug Treatment Policies in Vermont Prisons Contribute to the Opiate Crisis

Scott Pavek: the "data" is our collective experience that what we are doing now is not working. How can you tell anyone with a straight face to stay off drugs by continuing to take "other" drugs? It doesn't work. The only way to be clean is to be free of drugs. Otherwise, it is a very costly and effective band-aid that only perpetuates the problem.

Barbara Alsop: as counterintuitive as it may sound, continuing to give drug addicts more drugs is making the problem worse. If it worked as well as we would like to believe, then why do we continue to have problems? Please see what I wrote above.

Thank you for your comments.

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Posted by Elrod on 11/04/2017 at 7:22 AM

Re: “How Drug Treatment Policies in Vermont Prisons Contribute to the Opiate Crisis

(continued...) Addicts need to experience withdrawal, in my opinion, to deter them from ever taking opiates again. If we make it easy for them, substitute one drug for another and tell them it is okay, what incentive to they have to stay away from opiates? Not much, and since they are still on drugs and will have cravings without taking either methadone, suboxone or opiates, how are the clean? They are not clean, and they are still sick.

To be clear, I am not suggesting that we lock addicts up and let them detox in a cold cell on the floor without any help at all. I do, however, think we need to be honest with them and tell them they need to get clean the only way possible - by going thru detox hell and coming out the other side drug free. Anything else is just a band-aid on a problem that is not going to go away by itself.

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Posted by Elrod on 11/03/2017 at 3:50 AM

Re: “How Drug Treatment Policies in Vermont Prisons Contribute to the Opiate Crisis

Sorry to disagree, but methadone or suboxone are not medically necessary in the same way that insulin is necessary for diabetics. No one is going to die detoxing from opiates. Period.

Is detoxing an absolutely awful experience? Hell yes. Going thru it, recovering and being truly clean (i.e. not taking anything) is the only way to be free of drug dependence. Otherwise, they are just trading one drug for another while signing up for a lifetime of costly prescriptions that pharmaceutical companies are only too happy to provide due to the enormous profit.

I know firsthand how awful withdrawal is, I have done it cold turkey, in August during a heat wave (just to make it even worse) and that was from prescription opiates. I have absolutely no desire to ever go thru that again and I will never take another opiate unless I am recovering from major surgery. I have degenerative scoliosis (serious back issues) and live in constant pain but I would rather be in pain than be on opiates.

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Posted by Elrod on 11/03/2017 at 3:50 AM

Re: “Opiate-Addiction Implant Offers an Option to Those in Recovery

This new treatment industry is just ridiculous. A dishwasher has been on buprenorphine for 5 years for an addiction to percocet? JUST QUIT. Yes, you will be sick, yes, it is awful, and then it is over and you can move on.

Unfortunately, I speak from experience. My doctor put me on percocets for 11 months. I quit last August cold turkey after the pain clinic accused me of not wanting surgery just to keep taking pain killers. I went home and spent 4 days in hell detoxing by myself, in a heat wave in August.

You know what? After that, I will never take opiates again. I learned the hard way, something these people all need to do.

We need to stop coddling people, otherwise they don't learn anything and just keep repeating dysfunctional behavior, and we all end up paying for it. Oh, you don't want to be sick?? Too bad, that is the price you pay for taking opiates. You will not die, and you will hopefully not put yourself in that position again. No pain, no gain. Sounds harsh but the truth is never easy to hear.

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Posted by Elrod on 08/07/2016 at 2:34 AM

Re: “House Douses Marijuana Legalization, Cultivation

Right on, Giles. I agree 100%. Thank you.

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Posted by Elrod on 05/04/2016 at 11:52 AM

Re: “Pot Shot: Shap Smith's Marijuana 'Compromise' Misses the Mark

Vote out anyone who voted against legalization.

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Posted by Elrod on 05/04/2016 at 11:47 AM

Re: “Pot Shot: Shap Smith's Marijuana 'Compromise' Misses the Mark

Vote out anyone who voted against legalization. They are dinosaurs and need to go.

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Posted by Elrod on 05/04/2016 at 11:46 AM

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