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Re: “Boy Scouts Bow Out of Montpelier Parade Over National Policy on Gay Leaders

to John Odum-
Thank you , kind sir, for "wasting your breath" on little 'ol me (and anyone else found in disagreement with you). That is too kind.

I did in fact plainly read you quote, and found it at best condescending, and at worst a verbal slap down (again, John, your words " homophobic comments") to local Scouts whose only dog in the fight is the uniform they wear.

"Culture of entitlement?" Really, John? More name-calling for folks that don't agree with you?

As far as your contention that the adults who left with the Scouts did not "engage in democracy", I would say they chose to vote...with their collective feet (also a pretty telling exercise in democracy). You mentioned that the adults chose to leave, but in your original quote you said "Just think of the messages they are sending to the kids themselves..." A pretty clear message the adults were sending: there are right and wrong forums to address the stand of a national organization, and the city council is not one of those forums.

As to your further contention to 'straw man arguments, silver back gorillas, and the threat that folks will overturn tables' (along with thumping chests) welcome to democracy, sir. It is happily messy. It would seem you are the person that is resorting to verbal hyperbole and yet again, name-calling, when your words and actions are found wanting.

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Posted by howdydoody on 07/03/2014 at 2:08 PM

Re: “Boy Scouts Bow Out of Montpelier Parade Over National Policy on Gay Leaders

The National BSA has a policy that the local city council disagrees with. In order to make a 'statement', the council chose to initiate a 'discussion' with local Scouts and leaders/parents about this national 'disagreement'. While this discussion certainly benefits the political perception of the council, it does little to resolve the issue at hand, whether the local VT Scouts should or would be allowed to participate in the parade event. There were only losers in the poor handling of the perceived problem. No Scouts participating, no help in the parade events, no leadership by the elected leaders.
I am singularly impressed that the only person in the above article to fire a salvo of innuendo is city clerk John Odum, who relates that the Scouts who "walked out" to be in tacit support of "homophobic comments" in the community. Troubling when leaders resort to name-calling when things don't work out their way.
The First Ammendment is a cruel mistress...even when folks choose to walk away and NOT talk further. I suppose in VT, as sadly elsewhere, the easy and quick response is to label with a derogatory term those that don't do the council's bidding.

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Posted by howdydoody on 07/03/2014 at 10:28 AM

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