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Re: “Gun Groups Sue to Strike Down Vermont's New Magazine Limits

All laws that are pushing for Gun Control have been proven with statistics and historical data that they do not result in a positive manner. There has never been a single example of working gun control worldwide, every place that has implemented gun control has had a rise of violent crime in other directions and usually at a much higher rate. the few examples like Australia had decreasing numbers before the buyback, meaning the buyback had little positive effect.

None of these unlawful "solutions" do anything more than infringe on those that will follow the law, they will not make anyone safer, they will not change the outcome for school shootings, they will not protect students and anyone that knows anything...anything at all about firearms will see that. Those that pretend to know anything about firearms or history would be shocked and resent these unconstitutional measures. There are many real solutions being voiced, none of which infringes on anyone's rights and I believe thats most likely why they arent being heard. Feel Good Legislation gives false security and Freedom is Dangerous....those that would give up Freedom for Temporary Security Deserve Neither.

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Posted by Raymo_2_u on 08/11/2018 at 6:57 PM

Re: “Gun Groups Sue to Strike Down Vermont's New Magazine Limits

The more you read into what the Founders actually thought and believed the more you see that they knew weaponry and technological advances were to pass and they felt that the citizen shouldnt be restricted from those advancements. Does the First Amendment not continue on to your phone or Computer? The same should apply to firearms.

The founders WANTED the citizens to be as well armed as the government. Some Quotes from the Founders themselves:

To disarm the people [is] the best and most effectual way to enslave them.
George Mason, American Statesman and Author of the Virginia Declaration of Rights (1776).

"Arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them." Thomas Paine.

To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Richard Henry Lee, American Statesman, (1788).

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry, American Patriot.

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that . it is their right and duty to be at all times armed ."
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824.

And of course, the capstone of the comments: "What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. Thomas Jefferson.

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Posted by Raymo_2_u on 08/11/2018 at 6:57 PM

Re: “Gun Groups Sue to Strike Down Vermont's New Magazine Limits

Its amazing how many people havent done any research and attempt to interperate the constitution and bill of rights themselves instead of looking for the information from other readings from the same time by the same people.

Richard Henry Lee: A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselvesand include all men capable of bearing arms. (Additional letters from the Federal Farmer, at 169, 1788)

For those that think Large Capacity Magazines are relatively new, Lewis and Clark's famous rifles they carried on their Journey was the Girandoni Rifle, a 18th Century .46 cal. 20 shot repeating rifle that could fire all of its ammunition within a minute. This is one of many rifles and arms at the time you people have obviously ignored. There are many more that even fired automatic with high round counts, multiple shots with one pull of the trigger. A Few examples to search out: Puckle Gun, Swivel guns, Belton flintlock, PepperBox Revolver, and it wasnt limited to small arms but artillery and warships. Though today explosive, nukes, armored vehicles and destructive devices would fall under other categories but all small arms and their accessories should be unlimited/unregulated.

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Posted by Raymo_2_u on 08/11/2018 at 6:56 PM

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