Jon Kilik Talks Hunger Games and Foxcatcher 

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• Steve Carell and Channing Tatum in Foxcatcher

University of Vermont alumnus Jon Kilik '78 is having a good month. He produced the film that is currently No. 1 at the box office (The Hunger Games: Mockingjay, Part 1) and the film that Esquire recently characterized as "the Oscar movie to beat." That's Foxcatcher, which tells the fact-based story of the ill-fated partnership between millionaire John du Pont (Steve Carell) and two wrestler brothers (Channing Tatum and Mark Ruffalo) whom he hoped to train for the 1988 Olympic Games.

On Tuesday, December 2, Kilik took time out to return to Burlington and talk with students in UVM's Film and Television Studies program. He spent the day visiting classes, then hosted a campus screening that marks the Vermont premiere of Foxcatcher. Already out in major markets, the drama directed by Bennett Miller (Capote, Moneyball) won't reach Vermont multiplexes until early next year. In a rave review, Kenneth Turan of the Los Angeles Times described it as "hold[ing] up a dark mirror to the American dream."

Accolades are nothing new for Kilik, whose filmography reads like a history of the past quarter century in independent film. After a post-grad job at WCAX, he headed to New York and embarked on a producing career that has included award-winning films by Spike Lee, Jim Jarmusch and Alejandro González Iñárritu. Last fall, Kilik drew industry press for his keynote speech at the Independent Film Week Conference, in which he argued that independent film is headed for a "renaissance," contra recent gloomy prophecies from Steven Spielberg and others.

In advance of Kilik's trip to Burlington, we asked him via email about the future of indies and what it's like to helm a huge franchise — one whose iconography has made surreal recent appearances in real-life politics. Students in Thailand have adopted the Hunger Games' three-finger salute as a sign of protest against the military junta, leading to the cancellation of Mockingjay screenings at one Thai cinema chain, as various news outlets reported on November 20.

SEVEN DAYS: You have two seemingly very different films in theaters right now. What do they have in common, and how do they reflect the evolution of your career?

JON KILIK: I guess to most people, Foxcatcher and The Hunger Games are as different as night and day. To me they are both night and share a common thread that runs through every film I've chosen to make.

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I've been working on the same movie for the last 25 years. They all examine citizens of a country divided by class and race and power and greed. [The] disenfranchised living in isolation on the edge of society and the entitled living in isolation from within. The haves and the have nots. Katniss Everdeen and President Snow. Mark Schultz and John du Pont. In each case they inhabit worlds so different from one another that perhaps they should never meet. But they do.

Foxcatcher and The Hunger Games are my two sibling tragedies. Brother protecting brother. Sister protecting sister. Not wanting the dangers that find them. Thrown into an "arena" with little chance to survive, they become fierce warriors and reluctant heroes.

SD: You've said we could be headed for a "renaissance in indie filmmaking." What does this mean to students like those at UVM?

JK: Film students today have access to tools that make it easier to shoot, edit and even distribute their work. Digital photography and the internet broke down big barriers. But it still comes down to storytelling. Great writing and great imagination. Those are the intangibles that never change. The nice thing now is that you can experiment. Keep shooting. Keep honing your craft. If you have a great idea you can shoot something compelling with your iPhone.

SD: What about Vermonters who find they can see fewer and fewer indie films in theaters? Should we stop expecting theatrical distribution to be part of the picture?

JK: I hope not. The screens do get gobbled up by the big commercial films, but a good number of indies always seem to break through. If the films are good, people will want to go, and the theaters will show them. This year again there is a great lineup of indie films that will all play in Vermont theaters — Boyhood, Birdman, Whiplash, Foxcatcher, to name just a few.

SD: What do you think students and youth in particular will respond to in Foxcatcher?

JK: I'm very curious. We'll see on Tuesday. I think they will be especially impressed by the acting and directing. Steve Carell is amazing to watch. All of the acting is great, but Steve's performance is really unbelievable.

SD: Do you have any opinion on the appropriation of the Hunger Games salute as a real-world political symbol?

JK: The dystopian society in The Hunger Games is not so distant from the world and future that young people today face. With corrupt politics, loss of a middle class and an increasingly soulless culture, many young people feel that those in power can't be trusted to protect their future or support their dreams. And just like Katniss, Gale and Peeta, many young people today harbor hope nevertheless that they can fight to effect change and build the lives they deserve through some form of protest. I couldn't be more proud. m

The original print version of this article was headlined "UVM Alum Talks About Producing The Hunger Games and Foxcatcher"